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1 hour ago, IUHoosierJoe said:

I’m almost 60.  If Michigan can go from 8-24 to a 4 seed in the tournament in one year, it’s not unreasonable to expect Indiana to skip steps as well.  I mean, guys my age especially lived what we’re capable of, and the fact that we’ve stayed around for 25-30 of mediocrity is pretty remarkable.  But I think it’s time for IU to stop taking that remarkable support for granted.

A 4 seed doesn’t mean chit if you don’t get to week 2.  And in no way does it guarantee a week 3.  
 

 

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28 minutes ago, Jet812 said:

Better than terrible <> Great.  
Good is the enemy of great.
Hire someone that has proven they’ll be good & that’s what we’ll be.  IU should be GREAT.  

Sure.

But Hiring someone that is proven great is not really an option unless by some miracle Stevens is a yes.

So hiring someone is more than an assessment of what they've done; it’s an assessment of what they could be. And some without an .800 win rate is fine;

Schertz is a far better, proven option now than he was a year ago, yet last year he was worshipped by the masses.

Anyone in their right mind would kill for Shaka, and he was crap at Texas. But he was very young and got better.

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1 minute ago, IndianaSconnie90 said:

If you thought he was that good his name would've been on blast a long @$$ time ago. Seems that you found a cute little pearl that you're going to shove in everyone's face to convince them that he's the coach we should've been after the whole time. You do you big boy, I'm here for the entertainment factor on this one

And you do you, wasting one of your fifty posts per year on a condescending post of no value. 

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3 hours ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

I've never seen precedent for it, for one. 

Yeah, it is an odd situation, but it seems like if you were going to hire somebody like BS who wasn’t coaching,  the announcement should be sooner the better IMO.  
That’s why I don’t buy all the stuff about smoke screens because why would that be a slight to Woodson when he already announced his retirement?,  and if he cares about Indiana like he says he does, he would want Indiana to get the best coach possible as soon as possible.

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Just now, RaceToTheTop said:

Fixed it.

 

1 minute ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

While i agree i think he kinda got gifted unexpected pro in Wolf. He he has a McDonald’s all American coming next year, let him cook 

That’s what makes guys like May good.  Good things happen to or for them.  May is a good representative/ambassador of progam.

Woodson was gifted $6,000,000 (NIL) +a good salary (undeserving) and not just winning and losing…. but representing program and he and his program doing heartfelt sincere community service representing the institution of what is IU men’s basketball…..Currently, program is not any of this.

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1 minute ago, TTT said:

 

That’s what makes guys like May good.  Good things happen to or for them.  May is a good representative/ambassador of progam.

Woodson was gifted $6,000,000 (NIL) +a good salary (undeserving) and not just winning and losing…. but representing program and he and his program doing heartfelt sincere community service representing the institution of what is IU men’s basketball…..Currently, program is not any of this.

Yep.  I remember when Mike Davis came back with Texas Southern to Assembly Hall and was loudly cheered.  Tom Crean would be treated the same way.  Archie Miller would probably get an indifferent response.

I fully expect that Mike Woodson will continue to finger point and blame others to the point where he will never be given a good reception from IU fans EXCEPT by the grey hairs.

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5 minutes ago, MrBBall said:

Once again, feel the love for Beard. He WILL NOT be considered and is not a candidate. Great for him. Go suck a case of light beer and beat another woman. Not here

You may not want him, but there’s many who do plus want to win big again at Indiana. Something we haven’t done here in a long time. I think a handful could be just as good. Were you a Stevens or die guy just coming out of the haze?

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25 minutes ago, Five Prime said:

This thread is impossible to keep up with.  I have no clue who IU is targeting but I kind of hoped I could come here to find something tangible.  Instead, most of the posts are fantasies.  

There’s no real info from the administration as far as I’m aware so we’re left with what we’ve got.

But if you want to go on a ride: it’s Brad.

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4 minutes ago, TTT said:

 

That’s what makes guys like May good.  Good things happen to or for them.  May is a good representative/ambassador of progam.

Woodson was gifted $6,000,000 (NIL) +a good salary (undeserving) and not just winning and losing…. but representing program and he and his program doing heartfelt sincere community service representing the institution of what is IU men’s basketball…..Currently, program is not any of this.

Think this is right on. The thing that has me hopeful for the future of the program is the changing financial landscape, Indiana's traditional interest in basketball, and Dolson's newfound freedom. Think that this is the first time that IU is willing and able to take a massive swing at reviving the program since the Sampson hire; just hoping this one works out better!

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10 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Sure.

But Hiring someone that is proven great is not really an option unless by some miracle Stevens is a yes.

So hiring someone is more than an assessment of what they've done; it’s an assessment of what they could be. And some without an .800 win rate is fine;

Schertz is a far better, proven option now than he was a year ago, yet last year he was worshipped by the masses.

Anyone in their right mind would kill for Shaka, and he was crap at Texas. But he was very young and got better.

I'd like to here more about that Mark Few tidbit from last week.  If he put out feelers about the IU job, he is everything everyone wants, just 10 years older than desired. But 8-10 years of Mark Few would be a blast and set the program back on path

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50 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

As many know UK made a huge run at Drew before they went to Hurley and then Pope.  IIRC Mitch Barnhart had a good, long-term relationship with Scott, so UK had an angle to get him.  Drew’s family even flew to Lexington to check it out.  As we know they passed.  The reason is likely what OKHOOSIER stated — Drew and his family are extremely tied into the religious aspects of Baylor.

We aren’t UK, but zoom out and IU is pretty similar, we just happen to be in a college town and have our teeth.  I doubt he leaves Baylor for us for the same reasons he didn’t leave for UK.  I don’t see a unique angle for us to get him.

Excellent post and our only lure would be building a home state former great program back to greatness. He’s already a legend at Baylor but being one at IU is much different.

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24 minutes ago, Jet812 said:

Better than terrible <> Great.  
Good is the enemy of great.
Hire someone that has proven they’ll be good & that’s what we’ll be.  IU should be GREAT.  

Of course, just hire a great coach. Should have thought of that. 2 things: 1) Every single great coach in the history of sports, not 1 exception, has at some point in their career not been viewed as great. So, are you comfortable with hiring a guy that has great traits but has yet to actually be great? Example: You’d take Nate Oats, right? When Bama hired him he’d coached 4 years in the MAC, won 1 conference title and 2 NCAA tournament games and that was his resume. Anybody who says they knew he was great is lying their a$$ off. You willing to take a shot on a resume like that? 2) If no, how are you poaching a guy already viewed as great? To paraphrase the legendary Noho Hank from Barry, “You want to stand outside Great Coach Hotel with help wanted sign?” Those guys have giant buyouts, massive cache and all the resources they could want, otherwise they wouldn’t still be where they are. You ain’t just writin’ a big check and stealing one of those guys.  To me, it’s not complicated. 1) You identify the traits you believe are necessary to succeed in your specific environment, 2) You identify candidates who possess those traits, 3) You gauge interest and proceed accordingly. It’s not complicated. It’s also not easy.

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