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[IUCrazy2 2,589]

49 minutes ago, iu eyedoc said:

 

  Bama works on a completely different scale than IU. IU will not get Oats, because Bama fails to match any offer. That is 100% not going to happen.

The couching staff budget was $65M in 2019, 50% more than IU. Do you think they blink about going up to $68M?

Also, digging more into those numbers, Indiana really lags in ticket sales and whatever the "other" category covers.  However, we excel in contributions.  My guess is that the ticket sales is almost completely attributable to football.  If Allen keeps on the trajectory we are all hoping, I would expect ticket sales to increase.  Additionally, if that occurs and we get a good basketball program up and running, I would expect to see ticket sales impacted minimally (we could charge a little more and people would be willing to pay) and if both programs are humming along, contributions should be positively impacted as well.

I would rather be in Alabama's position from a revenue generation standpoint, but from an accounting standpoint, Indiana was a $30 million per year better operation than Alabama.  This was in a year where IU missed the NCAA tournament and went to the Gator Bowl and Alabama played for a football national championship and went to the NIT.

It just feels to me like Indiana has more room to grow revenue while not needing to increase expenses much.  Alabama seems to be close to maxing their revenue and still operates at a fairly large net loss.

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2 hours ago, Jeff_Boy_Ardee said:

Pure speculation and rumor o heard from someone today. Not sure I believe it, but how would we feel with Belein and Fife as the waiting position.

Again I don’t know if I believe that but I would love that scenario.


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If we can't have Stevens which sure seems like the case, then I would be all for this.  Beilein is #3 for me behind Stevens and Oats but add Fife in the mix to take over and I'll take it

[HoosierFan1994 4,842]

Just curious- where does this search rank as far as the past ones? If I remember right four years ago it was quiet. Many of the media suspected Alford until him saying he wasn't coming to IU. Donovan was the pipe dream. Archie wasn't really a surprise as he was a top 5 guy for most. In 2008 Crean was up there after Bennett turned the job down. 

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1 hour ago, Feathery said:

Drew won’t be able to recruit Indiana Elite bc of burnt bridges. Not a good situation for a IU head coach. 

It’s 1 AAU program and honestly if I was a player  and my AAU coach wouldn’t let me go to IU if I wanted to I would be pissed or tell them to F off. 

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Just now, MikeRoberts said:

It’s 1 AAU program and honestly if I was a player  and my AAU coach wouldn’t let me go to IU if I wanted to I would be pissed or tell them to F off. 

Agree with this. I’m no expert on Indiana AAU ball but if they can determine who IU hires, something is off. Not saying they have no influence, but damn. 

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2 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

It’s 1 AAU program and honestly if I was a player  and my AAU coach wouldn’t let me go to IU if I wanted to I would be pissed or tell them to F off. 

It’s not like the AAU coach could actually stop them from coming to IU. They might talk bad about IU, but if Drew was taking IU to conference championships and deep tournament runs they’re not going to be able to keep kids away. I think the AAU stuff is really overblown, personally. 

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6 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

Hiring a 68 year old would avoid the coaching carousel? 

Hiring a 68 year old who WILL win, will avoid the carousel.  If he stayed until he was 75, like a Boeheim, Coach K, etc are right now,  then that would make IU a very attractive job for the next coach.  Right now, apparently we're considered a lateral move, we're hoping someone chooses us, and who is to say that our next coach (young or old) will last 10 years.  The names we are all talking about are a gamble right now.  

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Just now, jumpshot53 said:

Hiring a 68 year old who WILL win, will avoid the carousel.  If he stayed until he was 75, like a Boeheim, Coach K, etc are right now,  then that would make IU a very attractive job for the next coach.  Right now, apparently we're considered a lateral move, we're hoping someone chooses us, and who is to say that our next coach (young or old) will last 10 years.  The names we are all talking about are a gamble right now.  

Yup, a lateral move, that likely pays very well. And we still don't seem to be able to lock down any of our top tier guys from non-blue blood programs... 

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33 minutes ago, Southside said:

Bama has always been FB first, but the SEC in general is starting to take BB more seriously now that KY is vulnerable. Also, Bama is likely preparing for the days post-Saban, and know they need to pay a bit more attention to BB. Bama has some huge boosters too, so it's not like they don't have money to compete in both FB and BB donor stuff.

Tks, Looks to me like there sure targeted a great coach for their first up and comer! 

Would love for us to somehow get him.

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7 minutes ago, HoosierFan1994 said:

Just curious- where does this search rank as far as the past ones? If I remember right four years ago it was quiet. Many of the media suspected Alford until him saying he wasn't coming to IU. Donovan was the pipe dream. Archie wasn't really a surprise as he was a top 5 guy for most. In 2008 Crean was up there after Bennett turned the job down. 

There were a lot more leaks. A lot of people wanted Crean when we hired Sampson. I remember back when RMK was fired. I discovered Peegs back then because I just had to know. Everyone was just sure that Pitino was coming. He was the BS of that search. When we hired Crean, people were just absolutely sure that Izzo was unhappy at MSU and ready to come to Bloomington. We’re nothing if not consistent in our delusions.

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I’ve watched video interviews of Mike Lewis and I would not want him as a head coach.
He seems to have a similar personality as CAM.  
He might be OK for a small school somewhere but not here IMO.

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1 minute ago, FrenchConnection said:

There were a lot more leaks. A lot of people wanted Crean when we hired Sampson. I remember back when RMK was fired. I discovered Peegs back then because I just had to know. Everyone was just sure that Pitino was coming. He was the BS of that search. When we hired Crean, people were just absolutely sure that Izzo was unhappy at MSU and ready to come to Bloomington. We’re nothing if not consistent in our delusions.

Well, there was a time when IU was a can’t turn down destination. We could have had Calipari, Pitino etc. IU has killed itself with internal BS and making poor hires

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5 minutes ago, Southside said:

Yup, a lateral move, that likely pays very well. And we still don't seem to be able to lock down any of our top tier guys from non-blue blood programs... 

There aren’t that many instances of a coach leaving a P5 program at which he was currently successful unless

• he has historical or personal ties to the destination 
• the NCAA is about to bring the hammer down

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4 minutes ago, ronzo4IU said:

Tks, Looks to me like there sure targeted a great coach for their first up and comer! 

Would love for us to somehow get him.

Yup, Oat's rise is pretty impressive. 3 MAC tourney championships in 4 years at Buf, and 1 SEC championship and S16 in two years (really only one year since last year was canceled).

 

 

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1 minute ago, FrenchConnection said:

There aren’t that many instances of a coach leaving a P5 program at which he was currently successful unless

• he has historical or personal ties to the destination 
• the NCAA is about to bring the hammer down

IDK. Seems like the other "blue bloods" have better luck for whatever reason. I can't buy that it's luck.

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2 minutes ago, Southside said:

Yup, Oat's rise is pretty impressive. 3 MAC tourney championships in 4 years at Buf, and 1 SEC championship and S16 in two years (really only one year since last year was canceled).

 

 

Oats might not leave but I think he is the homerun and while not a popular stance, even more so than Stevens

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Just now, MikeRoberts said:

Oats might not leave but I think he is the homerun and while not a popular stance, even more so than Stevens

I'd take Stevens easily over Oats, but I'd be pretty happy with Oats.

He's only making 2.4. At minimum, he's going to get a raise.

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1 minute ago, Southside said:

IDK. Seems like the other "blue bloods" have better luck for whatever reason. I can't buy that it's luck.

They have better coaching trees. We don’t have a Roy Williams or a Bill Self chomping at the bit to come home. Duke is in a similar spot. All of their former players have flamed out as college coaches and they will be in a bind when K retires.