8bucks Posted April 20, 2021 Posted April 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, IU Scott said: As for Kipp where would he play at IU the 3 or the stretch 4. I would think he might go to the others if he is looking to go and start somewhere. I see this roster 2 deep at each position do I would have a hard time seeing where Kipp would get huge minutes. Unless we see a significant player transferring out I have a hard time seeing minutes for Kopp. I like Kopp and he seemed to play well against us but don't know if he will come here. Johnson/Lander. Bates/RP./Leal Stewart/Hunter./Galloway Race/Geronimo. TJD/Duncomb. Based on his prior BT performance he seems to be ahead of Hunter, Leal and Galloway and Rob offensively. He brings a specially being a prolific 3 pt shooter and not just in practice or HS. If he wants to play a key role for a potential winner then we offer a lot. If he wants to play a lot, then he could do better probably elsewhere. Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted April 20, 2021 Posted April 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, go iu bb said: No, 2 years of eligibility, not 3. He redshirted Miller's 1st year and then played 3 years. Since last season didn't count he's used 2 years of eligibility so has 2 left. He has played three years -- but last year did not count toward eligibility. So he's played two against eligibility. So he has two years left but could possibly have three years IF the NCAA approved it -- his sophomore year he only played 9 games which would make him eligible for a redshirt year. That would be up to the NCAA if they would accept a second redshirt year for him, but they lately have been lenient in doing so when a player has been truly injured. So one of the three years he's played has the potential for a redshirt year as well. The post I was disagreeing with said that he had only one year left plus an additional one if the NCAA gave him a redshirt season for his sophomore year. Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted April 20, 2021 Posted April 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, IU Scott said: If we get a 13th person I would look at red shirting a couple of guys like Leal and Duncomb Can't really redshirt Duncomb unless we were to bring in another true big. Leal would actually make some sense. 8bucks 1 Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted April 20, 2021 Posted April 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, 8bucks said: Based on his prior BT performance he seems to be ahead of Hunter, Leal and Galloway and Rob offensively. He brings a specially being a prolific 3 pt shooter and not just in practice or HS. If he wants to play a key role for a potential winner then we offer a lot. If he wants to play a lot, then he could do better probably elsewhere. An area where he hasn't outperformed Hunter is in his ability to rebound, which if he is going to have to play some 4 is pretty important. 8bucks 1 Quote
IU Scott Posted April 20, 2021 Posted April 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, brumdog45 said: Can't really redshirt Duncomb unless we were to bring in another true big. Leal would actually make some sense. Could have Race backup TJD like we did this year Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted April 20, 2021 Posted April 20, 2021 Our team needs a dominant post presence in the worst way. Race, Trayce, and Duncomb isn’t enough. We’ve addressed shooting and guard play. We have enough wings. Hunter, Geronimo can lock down 3 spot with a third guard at times. We need offensive and defensive rebounding, shot blocking/deterring. A dominant big has a huge impact on any team and we haven’t had one in forever. Does Kopp take Hunter and Geronimos minutes. Do we want that. I don’t get it. He’s not a plus defender. He’s a good, not great shooter. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners Schreckbagger and 8bucks 2 Quote
go iu bb Posted April 20, 2021 Posted April 20, 2021 12 minutes ago, brumdog45 said: He has played three years -- but last year did not count toward eligibility. So he's played two against eligibility. So he has two years left but could possibly have three years IF the NCAA approved it -- his sophomore year he only played 9 games which would make him eligible for a redshirt year. That would be up to the NCAA if they would accept a second redshirt year for him, but they lately have been lenient in doing so when a player has been truly injured. So one of the three years he's played has the potential for a redshirt year as well. The post I was disagreeing with said that he had only one year left plus an additional one if the NCAA gave him a redshirt season for his sophomore year. He's not eligible for a medical redshirt unless they've changed the rules on that. While it's true that he played only 9 games he's disqualified from a medical redshirt because of when he played those games. It has to be a season ending injury incurred in the 1st 1/2 of the season. He came back and played at the end of that season so it wasn't "season ending." So I stand by my statement of only 2 seasons of eligibility left. Quote
8bucks Posted April 20, 2021 Posted April 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, brumdog45 said: An area where he hasn't outperformed Hunter is in his ability to rebound, which if he is going to have to play some 4 is pretty important. Yeah and Rob, maybe Galloway are better defenders. Personally I think we are thin at the 5 and I would prefer we add a solid player there. Logan could be much better than I expect but I suspect if TJD has foul trouble or even an injury we are going to need one more 5. Race can play there some but not for many minutes at a championship level. Schreckbagger 1 Quote
CSP Posted April 20, 2021 Posted April 20, 2021 1 minute ago, WayneFleekHoosier said: Our team needs a dominant post presence in the worst way. Race, Trayce, and Duncomb isn’t enough. We’ve addressed shooting and guard play. We have enough wings. Hunter, Geronimo can lock down 3 spot with a third guard at times. We need offensive and defensive rebounding, shot blocking/deterring. A dominant big has a huge impact on any team and we haven’t had one in forever. Does Kopp take Hunter and Geronimos minutes. Do we want that. I don’t get it. He’s not a plus defender. He’s a good, not great shooter. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners We weren't going to get someone expecting a huge role though. Just wasn't going to happen. IUc2016 1 Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted April 20, 2021 Posted April 20, 2021 We weren't going to get someone expecting a huge role though. Just wasn't going to happen. Why? 4 or 5 spot as a starter up for grabs with TJD at one spot. Race doesn’t scare a great player away. He’s a back up on a good team. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app 8bucks and Schreckbagger 2 Quote
Hoosierfan1901 Posted April 20, 2021 Posted April 20, 2021 Do we add Kopp or do we go after a Big? Quote
CSP Posted April 20, 2021 Posted April 20, 2021 10 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said: Why? 4 or 5 spot as a starter up for grabs with TJD at one spot. Race doesn’t scare a great player away. He’s a back up on a good team. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app What were those options to get? I think Kopp is a fantastic pick up if true. Some games he plays 8m some he plays 28m and there's no issue. Hippopotamo, ElectricBoogaloo, Stuhoo and 2 others 5 Quote
Unexpectedflash Posted April 20, 2021 Posted April 20, 2021 I'm honestly fine with how our roster is right now. I think in today's game a dominant big man isn't as important as it once was. Trayce is better than anyone on Baylor's team this year and UVA's team two years ago. We have to develop players also to be successful so my hope is that Geronimo can emerge in that stretch four role. Duncomb for 8 minutes a game is fine for me backing up Trayce. I think that's a reasonable expectation for a top 70 recruit. Hippopotamo, BtownStrength and Hoosierfanyuh 3 Quote
Hoosierfanyuh Posted April 20, 2021 Posted April 20, 2021 no big would come here knowing tjd is going to play 30+ minutes a night. IUc2016, GoIU8, Hippopotamo and 1 other 4 Quote
WRSMick55 Posted April 20, 2021 Posted April 20, 2021 37 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said: Our team needs a dominant post presence in the worst way. Race, Trayce, and Duncomb isn’t enough. We’ve addressed shooting and guard play. We have enough wings. Hunter, Geronimo can lock down 3 spot with a third guard at times. We need offensive and defensive rebounding, shot blocking/deterring. A dominant big has a huge impact on any team and we haven’t had one in forever. Does Kopp take Hunter and Geronimos minutes. Do we want that. I don’t get it. He’s not a plus defender. He’s a good, not great shooter. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners Apparently, CMW thinks we can use a wing...,..Head coach Mike Woodson has been recruiting Kopp for Indiana. “Coach Woodson has talked to me about how he really loves my game, loves that I can really shoot it and really space the floor, which he puts a premium on. Quote
Brass Cannon Posted April 20, 2021 Posted April 20, 2021 39 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said: Our team needs a dominant post presence in the worst way. Race, Trayce, and Duncomb isn’t enough. We’ve addressed shooting and guard play. We have enough wings. Hunter, Geronimo can lock down 3 spot with a third guard at times. We need offensive and defensive rebounding, shot blocking/deterring. A dominant big has a huge impact on any team and we haven’t had one in forever. Does Kopp take Hunter and Geronimos minutes. Do we want that. I don’t get it. He’s not a plus defender. He’s a good, not great shooter. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners Agreed on all fronts. We need a big that can play the 4 on offense and either 4 or 5 on defense. With Race as our guy off the bench for both spots. jk34, Hippopotamo and WayneFleekHoosier 3 Quote
ramadden13 Posted April 20, 2021 Posted April 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said: Agreed on all fronts. We need a big that can play the 4 on offense and either 4 or 5 on defense. With Race as our guy off the bench for both spots. What we needed was Chet Holmgren lol. A 5 on defense and a wing on offense. But in realistic terms, there just aren’t many players in the portal who make sense. Unless they have the very particular set of skills we need, they risk getting buried by TJD on any depth chart. A normal 5 would have to count on TJD becoming a stretch 4 and a normal stretch 4 wouldn’t be the defensive improvement at the 5. IUc2016 and moyemayhem 2 Quote
Brass Cannon Posted April 20, 2021 Posted April 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, ramadden13 said: What we needed was Chet Holmgren lol. A 5 on defense and a wing on offense. But in realistic terms, there just aren’t many players in the portal who make sense. Unless they have the very particular set of skills we need, they risk getting buried by TJD on any depth chart. A normal 5 would have to count on TJD becoming a stretch 4 and a normal stretch 4 wouldn’t be the defensive improvement at the 5. A certain teammate of our most recent recruit would fit the mold perfectly Hippopotamo, Hardwood83, DylanBeach33 and 4 others 7 Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted April 20, 2021 Posted April 20, 2021 What we needed was Chet Holmgren lol. A 5 on defense and a wing on offense. But in realistic terms, there just aren’t many players in the portal who make sense. Unless they have the very particular set of skills we need, they risk getting buried by TJD on any depth chart. A normal 5 would have to count on TJD becoming a stretch 4 and a normal stretch 4 wouldn’t be the defensive improvement at the 5.EVERYONE NEEDS A Chet Holmgren. I don’t see us being a championship contender with Race as our 4 and TJD as our 5. TJD doesn’t guard strong and tall bigs well. Plus, foul problems which he becomes prone to. Race is an undersized 4/5 that lacks perimeter skills. Countless schools will have better front courts than us. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app T White 1 Quote
ramadden13 Posted April 20, 2021 Posted April 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said: A certain teammate of our most recent recruit would fit the mold perfectly He would be pretty good, I have to admit. Depends on development of course. And we might be looking there. WayneFleekHoosier 1 Quote
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