NCAA MBB Transfer Portal

[Hoosierfan1901]

24 minutes ago, cleeter said:

Emoni Bates to enter the portal/decommit from MSU. Anyone okay with losing someone if he actually wanted to follow fife?

 

 

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Currently, the CB’s are leading Pro, with one lock

[Hoosierfan2017]

I thought Emoni Bates decommitted months ago? In any event, slim chance he ever plays college ball. 

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

4 hours ago, LIHoosier said:

Damn elderly holding up everyone ;)

May a thousand fleas infest your crotch and your arms be too short to scratch.  

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

The Daily Hoosier on E. J.Onu - 

https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/transfer-portal-names-to-know-naia-all-american-ej-onu/?fbclid=IwAR3Ea74gIwC8SPNOhSnWgqIgpkyz8gg0TqF_ZMbdU8iGTzDpArrLzEo4oWg

[ap2345]

1 hour ago, Hooserfan1901 said:

Currently, the CB’s are leading Pro, with one lock

That shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone.

[cthomas]

5 hours ago, brumdog45 said:

Not finding much about why Onu wasn't getting offers out of high school, but did find this article.

https://www.portsmouth-dailytimes.com/sports/45336/ej-the-eraser

-- didn't start playing basketball until he was 14.

-- sounds like a late bloomer even by those standards

-- ran track in high school, putting up a 57.49 in the 400.....pretty darn good for a kid that was almost 7 foot.

That's about what I ran. Can you imagine me at 5'6" dueling it out with him heading to finish line?

[TwatShot]

7 hours ago, NashvilleHoosier said:

If this was suggested I can't possibly imagine it had any merit. I've seen it come up in past years as well...probably the Crean years. The thought of any player or parents of a player saying yeah sure I'll start paying tuition so you can use my son's scholarship that he earned on another player so they won't have to pay tuition....I just can't ever see that happening. Nor should it ever happen. 

If I had the means I would gladly pay tuition for my kid and let the scholarship go to someone else if it meant IU could field a legitimate contender.

That being said, I don't have the means and my kid plays with Barbies.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Don’t want to speculate much but Onu represents the piece of the puzzle we are missing and I wanted long ago. I need to watch more film but some of what I have watched is WOW.


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[NashvilleHoosier]

1 hour ago, TwatShot said:

If I had the means I would gladly pay tuition for my kid and let the scholarship go to someone else if it meant IU could field a legitimate contender.

That being said, I don't have the means and my kid plays with Barbies.

That’s commendable. But I have to believe you’re saying that b/c your kid is very young and therefore nowhere near playing basketball at IU. So your desire for IU to field a legitimate contender is factoring in. B/c if your kid had earned a scholarship to play basketball at IU, regardless of means, it would simply be crazy to say yeah my kid is the one who deserves to give their scholarship up just so a 13th player can be added to the roster b/c that is the kid that will make the team a legitimate contender and deserves to have the scholarship instead.

[Demo]

1 hour ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Don’t want to speculate much but Onu represents the piece of the puzzle we are missing and I wanted long ago. I need to watch more film but some of what I have watched is WOW.


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This is the NAIA national championship game from March. Onu doesn’t have a particularly good game and fouls out. But it gives a nice look at his traits and the nature of his game. Without writing a book, I’m trying to stop doing that, a few things stick out: 1) Both physically and defensively, Onu looks a lot like Neemias Queta, the Utah St center, who was the Mountain West DPOY and a Naismith National  DPOY finalist. He’s so long and quick off his feet,  and he has excellent timing as a shot blocker. He gets shots right at the top of his jump. It’s his best trait. Otherwise, he’s developed some bad habits and I imagine his minutes would be limited by fouls. 2) He doesn’t shoot it from range well in this game, and the release isn’t exactly one you’d teach, but he strokes it so confidently that I imagine his shooting stats are accurately reflective and would translate to better competition. His low post game is crude and mechanical. Not bad, and he has good feet, but he really needs coaching. 3) The athleticism is exceptional, but it’s mitigated some by really unrefined instincts. You can actually watch him processing what he sees. He’s not un-instinctive, just very inexperienced. 4) I like him and it’s easy to see a role, though the size of it would be dictated by whether he can avoid fouling. I have serious concerns about that. But, his toolkit matches the new direction of the program better than Thompson’s does and he would bring a defensive presence the roster currently lacks.

fwiw

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

8 hours ago, Demo said:

But, his toolkit matches the new direction of the program better than Thompson’s does and he would bring a defensive presence the roster currently lacks.

Honest question  --  with only 1 year of eligibility and the weaknesses you pointed out would we be a better team for that single year? 

[Brass Cannon]

50 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Honest question  --  with only 1 year of eligibility and the weaknesses you pointed out would we be a better team for that single year? 

This is where I’m at would rather have our current guys potential 

[Demo]

1 hour ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Honest question  --  with only 1 year of eligibility and the weaknesses you pointed out would we be a better team for that single year? 

Fair question. I think you do, but if you’re gonna take him you have to really believe in his ability  to absorb coaching. A lot of his defensive stuff is correctable, but it has to be. He crosses his feet. He opens up his baseline shoulder and gives an angle to the rim. He lets guys into his chest. Against the NAIA he gets away with it, but Trevion Williams puts him on the bench in 5 mins. But, man, his good stuff is really good. I can’t remember the last shot blocker in Bloomington as good as Onu appears to be. Maybe George Leach? And his offensive game would play, no problem. If a school viewed him as a 28 min fulcrum of their team kind of kid, I think they’re really rolling the dice. But Bloomington strikes me as an almost perfect situation for him, assuming he picks up things quickly.

 

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

49 minutes ago, Demo said:

 But Bloomington strikes me as an almost perfect situation for him, assuming he picks up things quickly.

 

I'm putting you on the spot and you can only pick one or the other.  Based on having watched Race for several years and watching a single game of Onu, who will be of bigger value to us next season?

[Stuhoo]

10 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

I'm putting you on the spot and you can only pick one or the other.  Based on having watched Race for several years and watching a single game of Onu, who will be of bigger value to us next season?

It seems like him and Race are exact polar opposites. Race is controlled, experienced, low base, passer, screener.

One is lonnnnng, can shoot, will be mistake prone, hyper-talented.

The perfect contrast for a combined  35-40 minutes per game, while TJD plays about 30-35.

 

[Demo]

13 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

I'm putting you on the spot and you can only pick one or the other.  Based on having watched Race for several years and watching a single game of Onu, who will be of bigger value to us next season?

Fun question. And, yeah, the Onu sample size is way too small to make an informed call. But if you assume Onu completely checks out, good kid, smart kid, hard worker, fits in the room,  coaching sponge, I would probably roll the dice with him. He brings some things you don’t have now and has a chance to elevate your team and Race doesn’t. BUT, if Trayce were to blow out an ACL in November and suddenly 1 of these guys has to play 30 mins every night, than it has to be Race. You know he can handle that workload and you only hope Onu can. So in an either/or theoretical, I probably take Onu and wrap Trayce in bubble wrap between games. 

[Brass Cannon]

45 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

I'm putting you on the spot and you can only pick one or the other.  Based on having watched Race for several years and watching a single game of Onu, who will be of bigger value to us next season?

Depends if Woodson can get race shooting the 3 or not.  If he can get race to shoot even 33% from 3 I would rather have him 

[HoosierHoopster]

2 hours ago, Brass Cannon said:

Depends if Woodson can get race shooting the 3 or not.  If he can get race to shoot even 33% from 3 I would rather have him 

And Race has shown the ability to hit from outside, now he’ll play on an offense and under a coach who pushes that. Race has the tools imo and his demonstrated all around game is simply better 

[Brass Cannon]

26 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

And Race has shown the ability to hit from outside, now he’ll play on an offense and under a coach who pushes that. Race has the tools imo and his demonstrated all around game is simply better 

He was regarded as a shooter in high school 

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

Adam Miller to LSU.