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5 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

I think it needs to be left alone or decreased at the current state CBB is in.  Increasing it will water it down and add more greed to it

The huge TV contracts for college basketball has led to all of this. I know I am the old man yelling at the clouds but the past were just simpler with college sports and for me a lot better. 

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53 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

The huge TV contracts for college basketball has led to all of this. I know I am the old man yelling at the clouds but the past were just simpler with college sports and for me a lot better. 

I’m probably as old as you, not really bragging, lol

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17 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

I am not really that old(53) but I like what I like and hate for it to change so much.

Nobody like change!  And damnit, I’m older than you by many many years, lol!  Crap!!!

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3 hours ago, Scotty R said:

Once they mess with the tournament I am done with all of this. The tournament is the best sporting event in the country and if their greed ruins it I am finished. The mid to small conference teams is what makes the first weekend of the tournament. Nobody wants to watch a first round game of Kansas vs Georgia Tech

I've watched the tournament go from 32 to 64 to 68.  I've watched the advent of conference tournaments change what teams received automatic bids.  Watched the three point line enter the game, watched the introduction of the shot clock as well as a change in the length of the shot clock.  Have to say that it hasn't stopped me from watching.

In terms of watching a first round game of 'Kansas v Georgia Tech'.....not sure what you are getting at.  You think that would be a worse game to watch than, say, North Carolina v. a Fairfield team with a losing record?

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9 hours ago, RaceToTheTop said:

I've watched the tournament go from 32 to 64 to 68.  I've watched the advent of conference tournaments change what teams received automatic bids.  Watched the three point line enter the game, watched the introduction of the shot clock as well as a change in the length of the shot clock.  Have to say that it hasn't stopped me from watching.

In terms of watching a first round game of 'Kansas v Georgia Tech'.....not sure what you are getting at.  You think that would be a worse game to watch than, say, North Carolina v. a Fairfield team with a losing record?

In recent years you're more likely to see an upset of Fairfield over UNC than a Georgia Tech over Kansas.

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10 hours ago, RaceToTheTop said:

I've watched the tournament go from 32 to 64 to 68.  I've watched the advent of conference tournaments change what teams received automatic bids.  Watched the three point line enter the game, watched the introduction of the shot clock as well as a change in the length of the shot clock.  Have to say that it hasn't stopped me from watching.

In terms of watching a first round game of 'Kansas v Georgia Tech'.....not sure what you are getting at.  You think that would be a worse game to watch than, say, North Carolina v. a Fairfield team with a losing record?

If I remember right Fairfield almost won. I was at the game where Princeton beat UCLA which was magical. I am just saying I have no interest in watching more mediocre power conference teams in the tournament.

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4 minutes ago, Josh said:

"Back in my day" people who get angry with change are the worst.  

So agree. Without change there is no improvement, no adversity to overcome, and most importantly, much less ‘spice’.

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Chaz Lanier (North Florida, 6'4" guard, 19.8 ppg) chooses Tennessee over Kentucky.

In the Big Ten, PJ Hayes (San Diego, 6'3" guard, 10.5 ppg, 3.1 reb, shot 43/40/79, bulk three point shooter) transfers to Rutgers.

Xavier Foster, once a promising recruit (103rd in the class of 2020, 7') played a year at Iowa State and two years at SMU, scoring a grand total of 32 points in 21 games in his three years) transfers to Radford.

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3 hours ago, Josh said:

"Back in my day" people who get angry with change are the worst.  

If the change is for the good of something then I am all for it. All of this change in college sports is not for the good.

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2 hours ago, Scotty R said:

If the change is for the good of something then I am all for it. All of this change in college sports is not for the good.

All depends on what you define as what is 'good' for the sport.

Conferences are making record money on television deals.  Viewership is up.  Players are making more money than they ever thought was possible at the college level.  Fans have the capability of viewing more NCAA games on television than ever before.

Hard core fans certainly don't like what has happened, but it certainly hasn't stopped many from leaving.  I haven't. 

A lot of the 'it'll destroy the sport' conversations happened when professional sports started having free agency.  And here we are 50 years after baseball started free agency and the game is still around.

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28 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

All depends on what you define as what is 'good' for the sport.

Conferences are making record money on television deals.  Viewership is up.  Players are making more money than they ever thought was possible at the college level.  Fans have the capability of viewing more NCAA games on television than ever before.

Hard core fans certainly don't like what has happened, but it certainly hasn't stopped many from leaving.  I haven't. 

A lot of the 'it'll destroy the sport' conversations happened when professional sports started having free agency.  And here we are 50 years after baseball started free agency and the game is still around.

I don't remember the free agency conversations but I do remember when the Olympics started to allow professionals. A lot of the same things were said then as are being said now. Yet, the Olympics are better than ever, in my opinion.

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10 hours ago, go iu bb said:

I don't remember the free agency conversations but I do remember when the Olympics started to allow professionals. A lot of the same things were said then as are being said now. Yet, the Olympics are better than ever, in my opinion.

Remember when the boards along the court became advertising?  Oh boy the angry chatter.  Remember the Big Ten logo getting added below the free throw line?  The anger out of the anti-change crowd was fervent. 

Man if change angers people so much they should move to a uni bomber cabin and yell at the wind

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Does anyone know who is on the 2024-25 IU men basketball and football rosters?  As far as that goes does anyone know who is on any roster in power 5 conferences.  
(names may be known but hardly anyone knows anyone).

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50 minutes ago, TTT said:

Does anyone know who is on the 2024-25 IU men basketball and football rosters?  As far as that goes does anyone know who is on any roster in power 5 conferences.  
(names may be known but hardly anyone knows anyone).

Ummmm….I think most people on this site could tell you the 12 scholly players on the basketball next year.

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12 hours ago, Josh said:

Remember when the boards along the court became advertising?  Oh boy the angry chatter.  Remember the Big Ten logo getting added below the free throw line?  The anger out of the anti-change crowd was fervent. 

Man if change angers people so much they should move to a uni bomber cabin and yell at the wind

Change is life, the only things that don't change are dead

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