NCAA MBB Transfer Portal

[HoosierAloha 30,100]

52 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

Put me down as officially concerned. We need to be good next year and the portal was our ticket to that and we are striking out

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We only missed on one portaling player though right?We didn't want the others and we can't go off just missing on one transfer. Woody is going big (or something) and he's a closer. Add something about Cupps being a recruiter. There are plenty more players in the portal that can help us win next season.

[HoosierAloha 30,100]

1 minute ago, Ngw7183 said:

It tells me how far Archie set us back. That is era that will take a lot to turn around.

Woody has 2 years in. If… if both TJD and JHS go first round… that has to pay big dividends but he is going to need time unfortunately. I hope he has it in him.

Exactly, we just need to be patience and wait a bit longer. Woody is a winner and will get it done. What Davis, Sampson, Crean, and Archie did to this program will take a lot longer than a few years for Woody to turn it around. Pretty sure there hasn't been a new coach to come into a program over the last few years and do better than Woody. Just needs the time.

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1 minute ago, HoosierAloha said:

We only missed on one portaling player though right?We didn't want the others and we can't go off just missing on one transfer. Woody is going big (or something) and he's a closer. Add something about Cupps being a recruiter. There are plenty more players in the portal that can help us win next season.

Also, Our NIL is great except when it isn’t. 

[HoosierFan1994 4,961]

18 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Don’t listen to Hysterics Twitter space if you want to feel better about where we stand.

 

Basically stating the obvious that we’ve tried to get these kids, including Caleb Love. Trying really hard to get to Knecht. Did everything we could on Ledlum. Staff’s just missing, or kids aren’t generally buying what we are selling. Can’t even get in the front door of many desired targets. No bueno.

 

 

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I just don't think Woodson with Rosemond, Hunter, and Walsh is good enough.... I keep seeing Rabjohns and Hysteric dude praise Yasir Rosemond and Walsh and even Howard for their "work" and what not. "Pay Coach Ya!!" "Look at Howards Tweets!!" Yes, the Staff deserves credit for JHS, Reneau, and possibly Ware. But it's gonna have to be more than that to get IU back to a national status. Woodson needs a strong staff around him. When 2/3's of your assistants are from the Archie Miller era...that's not a good thing folks. Again, I appreciate their hard work. I don't doubt that. I just don't think they are good enough. 

That being said it's not panic time but the staff HAS to start closing on some of these guys. I laugh when Rabjohns says they are being "selective". When you have 3 maybe 4 open spots I don't think you can afford that. 

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1 hour ago, Bowhunter said:

Message me when someone commits. I need a beak from the fairytales.

If you aren't going to be around, how would messaging you help?

[HoosierAloha 30,100]

6 minutes ago, HoosierFan1994 said:

I just don't think Woodson with Rosemond, Hunter, and Walsh is good enough.... I keep seeing Rabjohns and Hysteric dude praise Yasir Rosemond and Walsh and even Howard for their "work" and what not. "Pay Coach Ya!!" "Look at Howards Tweets!!" Yes, the Staff deserves credit for JHS, Reneau, and possibly Ware. But it's gonna have to be more than that to get IU back to a national status. Woodson needs a strong staff around him. When 2/3's of your assistants are from the Archie Miller era...that's not a good thing folks. Again, I appreciate their hard work. I don't doubt that. I just don't think they are good enough. 

That being said it's not panic time but the staff HAS to start closing on some of these guys. I laugh when Rabjohns says they are being "selective". When you have 3 maybe 4 open spots I don't think you can afford that. 

Didn't we fill a few of those open roster spots with bigs so that we can go with Woody's preferred more modern offense?

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I hear you in this but according to Rabby he believed he was 100% IU and the staff did too until today smh 

Why didn't staff go and see him and up whatever he was getting from Tennessee? At least make a push and seem like he was priority. Maybe we did, who knows?

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[JSHoosier 21,717]

3 hours ago, Ngw7183 said:

Hold up… when I was saying we needed more than 2 and that DeLoach still made sense, everyone said we didn’t. So now we do?  Maybe you were not one of those. 

I think this is a big miss and no matter what is said the real reasons won’t come out. This is a very, very, very, odd one. 

We needed more than the 2 bigs we've gotten.  In other words we needed wing and guard help too.

[Hippopotamo 632]

You all are a fickle bunch. The championship game was 2 and a half weeks ago and the season doesn’t start for like 6 months. Relax

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33 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

So what kind of offense are we going to run next season? A lot of talks about how Woodson didn’t want to run the kind of offense he did but had to because of TJD/Race. But the only portal players we’ve landed are bigs. We have a big weakness on the perimeter. Shooting is a big concern. Things aren’t looking great. 

The shooting issues would still be there if Ledlum had signed as he's not a great shooter.  My expectation was that Ware would likely shoot a higher percentage from three than Ledlum was going to.  That said, Ledlum looked to be a known scorer and bulldog.

I do think the staff needs to identify some specialists, particularly a shooter.  Doesn't even need to be a starter who is going to play 30 minutes.  We have a spot for a shooter who can come off the bench and knock down some shots......fill a Tamar Bates spot BUT be able to knock shots down.

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25 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

Exactly, we just need to be patience and wait a bit longer. Woody is a winner and will get it done. What Davis, Sampson, Crean, and Archie did to this program will take a lot longer than a few years for Woody to turn it around. Pretty sure there hasn't been a new coach to come into a program over the last few years and do better than Woody. Just needs the time.

I'm sorry, if we hired someone Woodson's age expecting a mutil year rebuild than someone screwed up.  At his age you expect the shop to get rightened pretty quick.

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15 minutes ago, sweetpain said:

Why didn't staff go and see him and up whatever he was getting from Tennessee? At least make a push and seem like he was priority. Maybe we did, who knows?

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Exactly, we should've set up an in home as soon as Tenn. did. It's like we're not putting in the effort when we need it. I'm worried Ware will end up changing his mind and go somewhere else. We need scoring, so let's go get it.

[yogisballin 2,410]

20 minutes ago, sweetpain said:

Why didn't staff go and see him and up whatever he was getting from Tennessee? At least make a push and seem like he was priority. Maybe we did, who knows?

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There is just a ton of $$ in the SEC unfortunately (I know B!G teams do well too)...

[HoosierAloha 30,100]

6 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

I'm sorry, if we hired someone Woodson's age expecting a mutil year rebuild than someone screwed up.  At his age you expect the shop to get rightened pretty quick.

We'll see how next season plays out but Woody has a chance to get us to three consecutive tourneys for the first time in 15 years. We have to take baby steps as a program and can't expect to take jumps like other programs. Just making the tourney next season would be a huge accomplishment for this program. We shouldn't worry about making it all the way to a Sweet 16 or anything like that. There are other coaches who are close to 100 still in the game. Woody has as long as he'd like to continue to undo what Archie, Crean, Sampson, and the other coaches did to this program. 

Can we really expect to do more when Archie was the coach here several years ago? It's not like Woody can go out into free agency and get the players he needs to win now.

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7 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

I'm sorry, if we hired someone Woodson's age expecting a mutil year rebuild than someone screwed up.  At his age you expect the shop to get rightened pretty quick.

I’d say it’s proving that even with a top 10 Nil, an NBA coach, and a historic blueblood program with lots of other perks we aren’t elite recruiters.  
 

ive always wanted a spot at the table.  I guess the only thing we are missing is recent winning history.  But by the time we achieve that, IF we achieve that Woody is gone.  
 

I’d say serious questions need to be asked what’s the missing ingredient?  Arkansas grabs 10 starters every year with a winning history?  Things just don’t add up.  Maybe Woody’s hands off recruiting approach isn’t enough. Idk.  Questions.  

[WayneFleekHoosier 50,013]

I know our fanbase gave up on Geronimo and Bates but I’d take those guys back in a heartbeat over the scraps left in the portal right now. I think both of their potential far outweighs how they were playing in our system. Time will tell. 
 

Besides Cleveland, Knecht.  But over pretty much everyone else.  
 

was thinking definitive upgrades were in store.  
 

Rabjohns said 6-7 guys rumored to still hit the portal that may or may not that IU could be interested in. Sounds like Rabjohns talk to me, but we need some hope somewhere. 

[Brass Cannon 25,176]

58 minutes ago, Ngw7183 said:

I hear you in this but according to Rabby he believed he was 100% IU and the staff did too until today smh 

Pretty clear rabby didn’t know squat 

[IUFAN1976 4,320]

5 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

Pretty clear rabby didn’t know squat 

I’m pretty sure the staff, Rabby, and anyone on this message board who that Ledlum was committing, didn’t know squat

[IUFAN1976 4,320]

8 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

I know our fanbase gave up on Geronimo and Bates but I’d take those guys back in a heartbeat over the scraps left in the portal right now. I think both of their potential far outweighs how they were playing in our system. Time will tell. 
 

Besides Cleveland, Knecht.  But over pretty much everyone else.  
 

was thinking definitive upgrades were in store.  
 

Rabjohns said 6-7 guys rumored to still hit the portal that may or may not that IU could be interested in. Sounds like Rabjohns talk to me, but we need some hope somewhere. 

We’ve already concluded that Rabby doesn’t know squat.  His credibility is most likely shot!

[Hoosierfan2017 23,598]

24 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

We'll see how next season plays out but Woody has a chance to get us to three consecutive tourneys for the first time in 15 years. We have to take baby steps as a program and can't expect to take jumps like other programs. Just making the tourney next season would be a huge accomplishment for this program. We shouldn't worry about making it all the way to a Sweet 16 or anything like that. There are other coaches who are close to 100 still in the game. Woody has as long as he'd like to continue to undo what Archie, Crean, Sampson, and the other coaches did to this program. 

Can we really expect to do more when Archie was the coach here several years ago? It's not like Woody can go out into free agency and get the players he needs to win now.

To add to this, Kansas State only had two players last July and they made it all the way to the elite eight.