2021 IUFB Thought

[Bobman1]

What a shame. So much talent. Hope he can recover and compete again.


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You know damn well Penix will do everything possible to get back on the field at 100%. Obviously and unfortunately it seems unlikely due to his injury history but it will be interesting to follow Penix’s recovery knowing Tuttle is likely the QB1 and I assume most fans have confidence in Jack.


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[MemphisHoosier]

Quick Signing Day Update, CTA is up to 13 signees, including Matthews the FSU transfer.  I believe the only young man left at this point is Grier from Georgia.  No surprises, good or bad, so far.  

[JaybobHoosier]

Penix just posted a pic on insta, looks like he had surgery on both knees. Wasn’t expecting that. Anyone hear why?

Someone on Twitter stated that it’s common to use something in the good knee to help with the bad one. Surgery on both knees, but only one because of the ACL.


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[NashvilleHoosier]

8 hours ago, Bobman1 said:

You know damn well Penix will do everything possible to get back on the field at 100%. Obviously and unfortunately it seems unlikely due to his injury history but it will be interesting to follow Penix’s recovery knowing Tuttle is likely the QB1 and I assume most fans have confidence in Jack.


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What gives me hope is thinking about guys like James Blackmon, Colin Hartman, and Maurice Creek. Not a direct comparison, but guys who had multiple ACL injuries (or other major injuries) and came back to play at least one full healthy season for the most part. If Penix can do that, anywhere near the same level, I think he's the unquestionable QB1. If he cannot, it's pretty incredible to be in this embarrassment of riches phase of QBs at IU. 

[Stuhoo]

48 minutes ago, JaybobHoosier said:

Someone on Twitter stated that it’s common to use something in the good knee to help with the bad one. Surgery on both knees, but only one because of the ACL.


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Yeah--not anymore-that's from the earlier days of acl replacement/repair.

Much more likely (and much less invasive) to use a cadaver ligament for the repair and for best results these days.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

Check out     https://twitter.com/IndianaFootball

and what I've seen referred to as a branding logo for each signee.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

43 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

Yeah--not anymore-that's from the earlier days of acl replacement/repair.

Much more likely (and much less invasive) to use a cadaver ligament for the repair and for best results these days.

Could be like DeJaun Blair and just not have any ACLs. 

[MemphisHoosier]

2 hours ago, MemphisHoosier said:

Quick Signing Day Update, CTA is up to 13 signees, including Matthews the FSU transfer.  I believe the only young man left at this point is Grier from Georgia.  No surprises, good or bad, so far.  

...and Grier has signed as well.

https://247sports.com/college/indiana/Season/2021-Football/Commits/

This class reminds me a great deal of a typical Pat Fitzgerald class at Northwestern - smaller in sheer numbers but with solidly ranked players that fit the program culture and vision of the staff.  If CTA can have the sustainable on-field success that Fitzgerald has achieved I would be thrilled.

 

[KzooHoosier82]

2 hours ago, JaybobHoosier said:

Someone on Twitter stated that it’s common to use something in the good knee to help with the bad one. Surgery on both knees, but only one because of the ACL.


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Interesting, I would have thought an athlete like Penix would want cadaver parts put in. I don’t know that making the good knee potentially worse to fix the bad knee is a great idea, but I’m also no doctor 

[NashvilleHoosier]

20 minutes ago, KzooHoosier82 said:

Interesting, I would have thought an athlete like Penix would want cadaver parts put in. I don’t know that making the good knee potentially worse to fix the bad knee is a great idea, but I’m also no doctor 

My completely uneducated, non-medical expert take: the right leg is wrapped far more heavily than the left. If the left knee was involved in this surgery to the extent that something was removed (which seems to be debunked), they would be wrapped equally. I'm guessing he's wrapped like this in a way that helps for circulation since I'm guessing he's supposed to stay off of his feet for a while. I had a surgery around this time last year that had nothing to do with my legs, but they wrapped mine in something to help with circulation since I would be off my feet for a while. 

[KzooHoosier82]

10 minutes ago, NashvilleHoosier said:

My completely uneducated, non-medical expert take: the right leg is wrapped far more heavily than the left. If the left knee was involved in this surgery to the extent that something was removed (which seems to be debunked), they would be wrapped equally. I'm guessing he's wrapped like this in a way that helps for circulation since I'm guessing he's supposed to stay off of his feet for a while. I had a surgery around this time last year that had nothing to do with my legs, but they wrapped mine in something to help with circulation since I would be off my feet for a while. 

He’s got tubes of some sort coming out of both knees from what I can see

[HoosierAloha]

17 minutes ago, KzooHoosier82 said:

He’s got tubes of some sort coming out of both knees from what I can see

Those tubes could just be for cuffs placed on his calves to increase circulation.  I know when I've been hospitalized they place cuffs on my calves to prevent clots from forming in my legs.  Better circulation can also decreases recovery time.

[LamarCheeks]

Had four first-team defensive players via media -- one from the coaches. It was almost the same as the offense. Weird, but it almost seems as if the coaches and administrators are purposely trying to dis us. I think most consider us to be the second-best team in the league -- and this is our best defense in years, if not ever -- yet no love from the higher ups. The administrators walked back on their rule of a five-game minimum to benefit O$U and the Iowa AD is the CFP committee chair -- and he's backing the the Big 12 and the SEC than his own damn  conference. 
 

 

[NashvilleHoosier]

21 minutes ago, KzooHoosier82 said:

He’s got tubes of some sort coming out of both knees from what I can see

Hah! Well I admit I have to retract my statement, but I'm at least glad that I put the "uneducated and non-medical expert" disclaimer in there. It took me about 4 minutes to get an actual educated and fully medical expert-like opinion from a good buddy of mine who among many other things has helped treat and rehab ACL injuries. He confirmed it is still common to take a graft from the good knee to repair the torn ACL. Though he can't entirely confirm that's exactly what happened here just based on a picture, he can't think of any other reason the other leg would be wrapped and tubed (<-- totally medical expert word there) like that. 

[Ryno6284]

Live tissue donation is almost always better than a cadaver!

[Bobman1]

Gary Barta Week 1 and a top 10 Cincy team Week 3 should be a solid chance for a few good wins since everybody’s saying the Hoosiers don’t have any this year!


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[HoosierAloha]

Gary Barta Week 1 and a top 10 Cincy team Week 3 should be a solid chance for a few good wins since everybody’s saying the Hoosiers don’t have any this year!


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If we beat Iowa in game one it won’t count because they’ll have a losing record after that game..


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[Magnanimous]

26 minutes ago, Hardwood83 said:

I hate starting the season with a conference game- especially on the road. That would be 2 seasons in a row, since we were supposed to open at Wisconsin this year. Not a fan of the cock-eyes. Attended a game at Kinnick years ago and was treated less than cordially.  Was pelted a couple different times with ice along with some unpleasant remarks. I know every fan-base has their idiots, but it seemed pretty prevalent. On the other hand I've attended an IU football game (win!) and 2 basketball games (losses) at Nebraska and never even noticed an annoying look. There are differences in fan-bases. 

Back to the schedule, we'll know a lot about IU football by mid-Sept.

 

I doubt we’ll be anywhere near full capacity in stadiums for fall 2021. And if COVID is still running rampant around college campuses, we may see some more flexibility baked into the schedule again. It’s too far ahead to already be planning for next season, but if there is any accommodation to account for positive cases, our schedule may still be tweaked. 

It’s not going to be an easy start as it currently is set up. @Iowa to open and then vs. Cincinnati week 3. Fickle may not be their coach by then.

[Aaron]

51 minutes ago, Magnanimous said:

I doubt we’ll be anywhere near full capacity in stadiums for fall 2021. And if COVID is still running rampant around college campuses, we may see some more flexibility baked into the schedule again. It’s too far ahead to already be planning for next season, but if there is any accommodation to account for positive cases, our schedule may still be tweaked. 

It’s not going to be an easy start as it currently is set up. @Iowa to open and then vs. Cincinnati week 3. Fickle may not be their coach by then.

Fans will be in the stands by next fall. Schools will be requiring students to be vaccinated before returning to campus (IU has already hinted they will require it) and certainly athletes and staff will have it by then. Even Dr. Fauci said a few weeks ago he expects NFL stadiums to have fans by fall. 

You never know, but I'll be shocked if stadiums are not at least 50% capacity if not full by September. Vaccines will be widely available by early-mid summer and things will be returning to normal by fall. 

I am by no means a COIVD denier and have rarely left the house since the pandemic because I am scared of getting it, but if you don't think things will start to get back to normal by summer you are just being a pessimists for no reason.

[Magnanimous]

1 hour ago, Aaron said:

Fans will be in the stands by next fall. Schools will be requiring students to be vaccinated before returning to campus (IU has already hinted they will require it) and certainly athletes and staff will have it by then. Even Dr. Fauci said a few weeks ago he expects NFL stadiums to have fans by fall. 

You never know, but I'll be shocked if stadiums are not at least 50% capacity if not full by September. Vaccines will be widely available by early-mid summer and things will be returning to normal by fall. 

I am by no means a COIVD denier and have rarely left the house since the pandemic because I am scared of getting it, but if you don't think things will start to get back to normal by summer you are just being a pessimists for no reason.

I think 50% is more reasonable than full capacity. Once this vaccine has hit the population, it’s not going to be a flip of the switch policy-wise opening everything back up. If the non-vulnerable and prioritized groups are only really getting their hands on it by the summer, then I have a hard time seeing full stadiums come late August (at least in the Big Ten). From there, it’s a consideration of will the Big Ten allow for stadiums to increase their attendance throughout the season or will it be capped throughout. I’d bet on the latter. Also, come fall we’re back in holidays and cold weather coupling with potential first dose immunity beginning to wane. Things will have improved by then, but we’re not going to be back to where things were Jan. 2020 by Q4 2021.