(2021) - PF Mason Miller to Creighton

[Stuhoo]

 

We finally have a "high confidence" crystal ball pick for Mason Miller:

Rabjohns. For Creighton.

 

[ebridges24]

4 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

 

We need to win basketball games. Lots of them. 

In my opinion, Mason Miller would not have been a primary contributor toward that goal during his freshman year. His junior and senior year? Much more likely.

We don't need to get Mason Miller, we need to have enough talent, and not just role players, to be a perennially strong team; a contender in the B1G and with national championship thoughts when things break correctly.

So, back to my (favorite?) adage: It's not who you don't get, it's who you get.

We need to "get" enough to win big, whether it's Miller, Kaufman , Muhammed, a transfer,  a decommit, a reclass, and through development of Geronimo, Hunter, Galloway, Leal, and Franklin.

Do we have enough talent to win big this year? You betcha; one of the top ten bigs in the country, a five star pg, and lots of effective role players. That's the special sauce if you ask me.

Going forward? I don't give a rat's @$$ how we get a similarly strong roster, but I do want to see that consistently happen. Getting or not getting Mason Miller doesn't matter at all if we get that strong roster some other way. Getting him (or Muhammed) would start that process though.

"So, back to my (favorite?) adage: It's not who you don't get, it's who you get." It's not that I think Mason is going to be great, it's the fact that we were laser focused on TK and MM and couldn't get either one. I guess we need to start throwing the net out a lot wider so we might have 10 guys to have a chance of getting one.

[Stuhoo]

13 minutes ago, ebridges24 said:

"So, back to my (favorite?) adage: It's not who you don't get, it's who you get." It's not that I think Mason is going to be great, it's the fact that we were laser focused on TK and MM and couldn't get either one. I guess we need to start throwing the net out a lot wider so we might have 10 guys to have a chance of getting one.

 

I disagree...that was Tom Crean's method and it led to wildly divergent results.

I think we should be "all-in" on a relatively small number of recruits that truly fit the profile, both athletically and culturally, of who we want.

Then, if we strike out on too many and need to fill in, we should go all-in on select transfers, de-commits, or late very high risers (ie Geronimo). We do not want to buckshot ten offers in hopes that one will say yes--it might be the tenth best of that group that is the first yes.

The good news? I hope and think that the preferred style of recruiting is exactly what Archie has been doing.

 

[Demo]

This is the ultimate in throwing stuff against the wall, but keep this name in the back of your mind: Sydney Curry. 6'8" JUCO PF. Plays at John Logan. One of the top 10 returning kids in JUCO this year. Big body, terrific athlete, lefty. Good enough to have a KU offer. And, he's from Fort Wayne. No idea what kind of kid he is, but since Archie has at least looked at JUCO kids in the past, this might be....interesting.

Strictly a fwiw kind of thing.

[Stuhoo]

16 minutes ago, Demo said:

This is the ultimate in throwing stuff against the wall, but keep this name in the back of your mind: Sydney Curry. 6'8" JUCO PF. Plays at John Logan. One of the top 10 returning kids in JUCO this year. Big body, terrific athlete, lefty. Good enough to have a KU offer. And, he's from Fort Wayne. No idea what kind of kid he is, but since Archie has at least looked at JUCO kids in the past, this might be....interesting.

Strictly a fwiw kind of thing.

6’8”, 265. Yeah, I’d say that’s a big body.

Under 50% ft and no outside game though.

 

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

6 hours ago, Demo said:

(Whispers) Jalen Washington reclass.

 

Wishful thinking or have you heard something?

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

7 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

Under 50% ft and no outside game though.

 

Then he fits right in doesn't he?   :-D

[Demo]

36 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Wishful thinking or have you heard something?

Haven’t heard a thing, but his combination of high academic achievement and injury history just screams re-class. 

[Demo]

48 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

6’8”, 265. Yeah, I’d say that’s a big body.

Under 50% ft and no outside game though.

 

Yeah, no idea if they even look at the kid. But, as you quite correctly pointed out in your screed above, there are a lot of avenues to build a roster. Missing on Miller is miles and miles from the end of the world.

[MemphisHoosier]

Just now, Demo said:

Yeah, no idea if they even look at the kid. But, as you quite correctly pointed out in your screed above, there are a lot of avenues to build a roster. Missing on Miller is miles and miles from the end of the world.

^This. 

I have read a few anecdotes from the national recruiting guys expecting a 'wild' spring/summer recruitment window full of decommits & seemingly odd school selections for the class of '21 due to the (1) potential immediate eligibility for transfers, (2) an additional year of eligibility across the board for athletes, and (3) the inability for coaches and staff to get recruits on campus and see them live.  I bring this up because as much as it pains me, patience might be CAM's strongest weapon this recruitment cycle.  

[Stuhoo]

Creighton it is.

 

[LamarCheeks]

We all pretty much knew it. Now it's official. 
 

 

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

And then there was 1.

	2021 COMMITS
Name	High School	Location		Offered	Committed
Duncomb, Logan	Archbishop Moeller	Cincinnati, OH		07.31.19	04.07.20
	2021 OFFERS
Name	High School	Location		IU Offer	Notes
Mohammed, Aminu	Greenwood Lab School	Springfield, MO		07.17.19
	2021 COMMITTED ELSEWHERE			IU Offer	Committed To:
Amzil, Mustapha	First Love Christ. Acad.	Washington, PA		11.11.20	Dayton 11.16.20
Camden, John	Brewster Academy	Wolfeboro,  NH		05.16.20	Memphis 09.30.20
Christie, Max	Rolling Meadows HS	Rolling Meadows, IL		06.19.19	MSU 07.07.20
Clarke, Terrence	Brewster Academy	Wolfeboro, NH		07.23.18	pUKe 09.14.19
Furst, Caleb	FW Blackhawk Christian	Fort Wayne, IN		10.27.18	PUke 03.03.20
Graham, James III	Nicolet HS	Milwaukee, WI		07.02.20	MD 08.19.20
Hopkins, Bryce	Fenwick HS	Oak Park, IL		06.22.19	pUKe 10.26.20
Kauffman, Trey	Silver Creek HS	Sellersburg, IN		06.07.19	PUke 10.30.20
Kepnang, Franck	Westtown HS	Norristown, PA		07.18.19	Oregon 10.10.20
Longino, Jordan	Germantown Academy	Fort Washington, PA		04.08.20	Nova 07.23.20
Miller, Mason	Houston HS	Germantown, TN		Informal	Creighton 11.23.20
Patterson, Trey	Rutgers Preparatory	Somerset, NJ		06.24.19	Nova 06.18.20
Sallis, Hunter	Millard North HS	Omaha, NE		08.28.20	Not in Top 8
Wesley, Blake	South Bend Riley HS	South Bend, IN		07.29.19	Notre Dame 11.20.20
Whitt, Carter	Brewster Academy	Wolfeboro,  NH		??	Wake Forest 09.21.20

[WayneFleekHoosier]

I don’t care about Mason Miller. We need a 4 and he’s much more of a 3. So whatevs.

However, Archie should be embarrassed by his recruiting results for 2021. Abysmal.

Mohammad would make me feel better despite it not being a true position of need. He’s a difference maker, regardless.

But at this point, Archie needs to remember what it feels like to win a recruitment.


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[WayneFleekHoosier]

And then there was 1.

	2021 COMMITS
Name	High School	Location		Offered	Committed
Duncomb, Logan	Archbishop Moeller	Cincinnati, OH		07.31.19	04.07.20
	2021 OFFERS
Name	High School	Location		IU Offer	Notes
Mohammed, Aminu	Greenwood Lab School	Springfield, MO		07.17.19
	2021 COMMITTED ELSEWHERE			IU Offer	Committed To:
Amzil, Mustapha	First Love Christ. Acad.	Washington, PA		11.11.20	Dayton 11.16.20
Camden, John	Brewster Academy	Wolfeboro,  NH		05.16.20	Memphis 09.30.20
Christie, Max	Rolling Meadows HS	Rolling Meadows, IL		06.19.19	MSU 07.07.20
Clarke, Terrence	Brewster Academy	Wolfeboro, NH		07.23.18	pUKe 09.14.19
Furst, Caleb	FW Blackhawk Christian	Fort Wayne, IN		10.27.18	PUke 03.03.20
Graham, James III	Nicolet HS	Milwaukee, WI		07.02.20	MD 08.19.20
Hopkins, Bryce	Fenwick HS	Oak Park, IL		06.22.19	pUKe 10.26.20
Kauffman, Trey	Silver Creek HS	Sellersburg, IN		06.07.19	Puke 10.30.20
Kepnang, Franck	Westtown HS	Norristown, PA		07.18.19	Oregon 10.10.20
Longino, Jordan	Germantown Academy	Fort Washington, PA		04.08.20	Nova 07.23.20
Miller, Mason	Houston HS	Germantown, TN		Informal	Creighton 11.23.20
Patterson, Trey	Rutgers Preparatory	Somerset, NJ		06.24.19	Nova 06.18.20
Sallis, Hunter	Millard North HS	Omaha, NE		08.28.20	Not in Top 8
Wesley, Blake	South Bend Riley HS	South Bend, IN		07.29.19	Notre Dame 11.20.20
Whitt, Carter	Brewster Academy	Wolfeboro,  NH		??	Wake Forest 09.21.20

Pretty remarkable. Kentucky getting 2 of your targets isn’t too surprising. Purdue getting the best 2 players in the state hurts.


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[AKHoosier]

Woof.  Spin this any way you want, but this month has been rough.

Losing 2 of your top 3 recruits left to Purdue and Creighton is not good.  It just looks bad.

Aminu Mohamed would take the sting off a bunch, but we already have Galloway, Leal, and Geronimo there so it's not really a position of need.  He would definitely be the best of the bunch though.

Recruiting is a brutal game man.  It almost NEVER works out the way you want or think it will.

[Honkyman]

We are past the point of having to win on the court in order to win some of these recruiting battles. Most top high school players want to go to a college with a dynamic offense and IU's offense under Archie has been anything but dynamic. So Indiana has to do better than place 7th or 8th in the conference and they have to do it with an offense that attracts the top high school players.

[Bowhunter]

This awesome 2021 class was supposed to be our year. It may turn into poop.


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[mdn82]

16 minutes ago, Bowhunter said:

This awesome 2021 class was supposed to be our year. It may turn into poop.


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I think it already did when people are this upset over a hovering 60th ranked player choosing Creighton over us.

[ebridges24]

16 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

 

I disagree...that was Tom Crean's method and it led to wildly divergent results.

I think we should be "all-in" on a relatively small number of recruits that truly fit the profile, both athletically and culturally, of who we want.

Then, if we strike out on too many and need to fill in, we should go all-in on select transfers, de-commits, or late very high risers (ie Geronimo). We do not want to buckshot ten offers in hopes that one will say yes--it might be the tenth best of that group that is the first yes.

The good news? I hope and think that the preferred style of recruiting is exactly what Archie has been doing.

 

I was exaggerating, but clearly 2 is not enough if we have a need. Heck, maybe we did have other options and they rejected us too.