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#24 Stanford comes to Assembly Hall this Sunday...... These guys will get better, but it may take a little longer than most of us want. Teri mentioned 2 guards were out that were needed in the rotation. These two loses could be a blessing in disguise.

IMO, These guys will put together their best game of the season Sunday. 

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From ability levels with confidence to hope.

Nothing that Beaumont at 100% and Bargesser at 100 % and a physical elite inside shot blocker, rebounding, defensive, passing, ball handling, scoring machine  could not cure.  It is not reality.  

Even when Beaumont and Bargesser come back may reach 75% to 80% during season.

This season definitely has the potential to accumulate many 25 to 40 point losses.  
Though she will do well in the long run…what a disappointment for Indiana Miss Basketball, Sidney Parrish.

T. Moren has noted:  It is one thing to achieve success.  It’s another thing to sustain it.

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5 hours ago, Banksyrules said:

Just don’t think the NIL is there to recruit the top athletes. 

It would be interesting to take a deep dive into understanding NIL in relation to IU Ladies and the rest of top women college basketball programs so blame can be appropriately placed.  Many elite/the very top level recruits nationwide seem to not have IU as a high enough priority in relationship to IU Ladies basketball program success and growth over the last several years.

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I have to think NIL problems is only a small piece and it has more to do with Moren's system not being attractive to top-athletes similar to Wisconsin in men's basketball. You can build a program with a specific system and I think that is what is happening.

If it were exclusively NIL, Michigan would not have gotten two top-ten recruits this fall. That program has risen just like IU but in a more conventional way and certainly has no more fan support or NIL from university knowing what I know about how the Wolverines do things.

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12 minutes ago, TTT said:

It would be interesting to take a deep dive into understanding NIL in relation to IU Ladies and the rest of top women college basketball programs so blame can be appropriately placed.  Many elite/the very top level recruits nationwide seem to not have IU as a high enough priority in relationship to IU Ladies basketball program success and growth over the last several years.

We’re in high regard but that’s the final piece of the pie on why we’re missing on new highly ranked recruits. South Carolina has a good program with that because their coach had big connections with rich people to specifically donate to her program. At Duke and UNC we have our men’s coaches do private fundraising to get one or two highly ranked recruits for the women’s team. Woodson doesn’t want to do anything so  we simply need NIL money.  
 

I wonder if one day our coach will leave because I know I’ve heard her name pop up independently when going into the athletic programs to catch up with friends…… I pretended I didn’t know anything about her. 
 

edit: maybe Coach cig could do it. That would help a lot. 

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On 12/2/2024 at 6:13 PM, TheWatShot said:

Minor rant: I noticed Iowa is 8-0 and ranked. I guess losing a generational talent, a handful of others who contributed to Final Four runs and changing coaches unexpectedly doesn't matter if you've recruited well. 

 

got handled by Tennessee in the 2H ... and Iowa's best player is a transfer. 

Their net ranking is 8 spots ahead of us

 

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2 hours ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

got handled by Tennessee in the 2H ... and Iowa's best player is a transfer. 

Their net ranking is 8 spots ahead of us

 

They're still doing better than we are even though they lost a lot more. 

 

OSU and Maryland are both unbeaten and highly ranked. USC and UCLA are both loaded. It's going to be hard for us to stay relevant in this league if we don't start recruiting better. 

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On 12/2/2024 at 6:13 PM, TheWatShot said:

Minor rant: I noticed Iowa is 8-0 and ranked. I guess losing a generational talent, a handful of others who contributed to Final Four runs and changing coaches unexpectedly doesn't matter if you've recruited well. 

 

I don't disagree IU's recruiting has to pick up (and it should be noted Makalusky is highest ranked program recruit in program history next year as high 4* and first ranked in 30's [Berger and Holmes were 40's and 50's nationally]).

However, lets be clear on how Iowa is thriving this year and it has zero to do with high school recruiting from the offseason. They have a three headed monster in Lucy Olson, Hannah Stuelke, and Addison O'Grady with little else from rest of team. Olson was top ranked player in portal who has lived up to hype. Stuelke is a holdover as only starter returning and taken a huge leap forward after solid 23-24. Finally O'Grady was a complete bust and struggled every time she took the court till this year and is now suddenly and unexpectedly elite.

In other words most of Iowa's thriving this year has to do with the development of two role players turned into super stars. Not awesome recruiting. Also, Iowa has been the best and most consistent conference team for about 25-30 years now under several coaches so not sure why anyone would expect a fall off. 

The argument for awesome recruiting should be Michigan who is thriving with three 5* recruits being amazing right away. This is the squad IU needs to be asking itself why they can turn around a terrible program at same time as them and now recruit elite while Hoosiers settle for the next level of player (which it should be noted is far better than anything before now).

You are right Indiana's recruiting needs to get somewhat better despite being at its best in program history. However, you used the wrong team to make your comparison.          

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