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Lane is too crowded. TJD should start and Brunk and Deron come off bench 

[Class of '66 Old Fart 84,670]

I rarely listen to Dakich but today at 12:30, Fisch will be on his radio show.  Might be an interesting conversation.

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1 hour ago, IUc2016 said:

I was a strong voice against Brunk at the beginning of the year and felt he should have a 10-15 minute backup role. he did have a few games where he showed that I may be wrong but lately it's mostly what I thought. 

He just cannot play defense and for some reason this team uses him as the focal point of the offense. They are correct that once he touches the ball he is going to shoot it, its frustrating how much he gets the ball vs TJD. Why he continues to start along with Smith is basically malpractice. You have two players that are offensive black holes playing a majority of your minutes. 

Brunk couldnt get on the floor at Butler. He has a valuable role at IU but its not the focal point of the offense. Though I knew when we signed him Archie would play Joey come hell or high water and try to force something that isnt there.

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12 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

 

Hunter needs to start 

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Rob. Durham. Hunter. Smith. TJD.


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[LIHoosier 26,148]

Not killing the messenger, but it'd be nice if they showed what the +/- is on the most used lineups. Who cares if a lineup is +2 if it only sees the floor for 25 seconds.

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16 minutes ago, LIHoosier said:

Not killing the messenger, but it'd be nice if they showed what the +/- is on the most used lineups. Who cares if a lineup is +2 if it only sees the floor for 25 seconds.

Also would love to see the +/- for players for the whole season.  

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Interesting take.

https://www.hoosiersportsreport.com/2020/02/commentary-iu-lineups-not-working-no-lie/

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27 minutes ago, brumdog45 said:

Interesting take.

https://www.hoosiersportsreport.com/2020/02/commentary-iu-lineups-not-working-no-lie/

Does anyone have any insight on if Crean or Archie (or any coach), have utilized Wayne Winston and his analysis? Feel like having that resource in your backyard and not utilizing it just seems so silly. 

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Does anyone have any insight on if Crean or Archie (or any coach), have utilized Wayne Winston and his analysis? Feel like having that resource in your backyard and not utilizing it just seems so silly. 

I took classes from him while Crean was there, and Crean was using him. I don't know the extent of his work, but he was doing lineup analysis like this. Some of our class assignments were things like finding the most effective lineups and making rotation recommendations.


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Wayne Winston was on with Dakich yesterday. Some interesting lineup notes. Interestingly he said there are no lineup combinations that involve Rob that are good. The best lineups have Green in. Hunter needs to play more. And TJD + Brunk is extremely terrible. Some of these seem obvious. I think people will be surprised about Green and Phin


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Wayne Winston was on with Dakicu yesterday. Some interesting lineup notes. Interestingly he said there are no lineup combinations that involve Rob that are good. The best lineups have Green in. Hunter needs to play more. And TJD + Brunk is extremely terrible. Some of these seem obvious. I think people will be surprised about Green and Phin


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He also said Hunter has been really good but he is terrible when on the court with Rob.


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12 minutes ago, ap2345 said:

He also said Hunter has been really good but he is terrible when on the court with Rob.


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Right. Everybody unfortunately is terrible with Rob. I wonder if Green's sloppiness is less of a negative on the team than many think because the offense in general is so bad. For instance, Green takes some bad shots, but that would hurt a lot more if we were consistently getting good shots, so we were getting a bad shot instead of a good one. Instead Green taking a bad shot often means a different player isn't taking a shot that they're unlikely to hit. 

Rob, OTOH, is fairly steady, but because we don't have many playmakers, he doesn't contribute much. Hopefully this is all because of his injury, and he's a different player next year, but I'm concerned.

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Right. Everybody unfortunately is terrible with Rob. I wonder if Green's sloppiness is less of a negative on the team than many think because the offense in general is so bad. For instance, Green takes some bad shots, but that would hurt a lot more if we were consistently getting good shots, so we were getting a bad shot instead of a good one. Instead Green taking a bad shot often means a different player isn't taking a shot that they're unlikely to hit. 
Rob, OTOH, is fairly steady, but because we don't have many playmakers, he doesn't contribute much. Hopefully this is all because of his injury, and he's a different player next year, but I'm concerned.

That’s actually not what the analytics say about Rob. Just that he’s bad with certain players just as it is the other way around.


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Because when Rob is on the floor, he handles the ball a lot and doesn’t do anything with it. He also has the highest turnover %.


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That’s actually not what the analytics say about Rob. Just that he’s bad with certain players just as it is the other way around.


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It says that no lineups with Rob on the floor are good, but that those lineups are better when you sub a different guard in for him. He's not helping the team this year, maybe because of injury. But either way, the team is generally not effective when he's playing.

I don't think Rob is bad, but I think the passive version of him is. I'd love him to attack and look for his shot more. But if he's not going to do that then he's not adding anything other than a steady hand to a bad offense with no playmakers. The team needs more from him


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