Negativity Thread

[8bucks 6,353]

Interesting tweet from Jarrad Odle.  I presume he's referring to Andre Owen.
Mark my words, there is a cancer or 2 on this iu team. We had one in 2001 and when he left our world got a whole lot better.

What did the idle tweet say


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[Golfman25 5,051]

11 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Interesting question.  He's not getting the job done and a new AD won't necessarily feel any allegiance to him.  Is his noticeable weight loss due to a designed weight loss program or is it stress related and possibly generating some other health issues?  Is it better to be fired or cut and run in the eyes of future employers?  IMO, resigning wouldn't be that much of a detriment to his future hire albeit maybe not a major D1 school.  I can't answer your question only add some additional questions.

He did mention on one of his shows that he was working to loose weight.  Said 160 which was his playing weight.

[Class of '66 Old Fart 84,075]

2 minutes ago, 8bucks said:

What did the idle tweet say


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 Odle's tweet was the reference to a cancer on the '01 team.  I named Owen as the likely suspect.  Sorry I wasn't clearer.

[Bowhunter 2,693]

I’ll bring the question up again, who are we suppose to go get? 
 
Holtman is settled in. Wade was involved with the FBI stuff. 

At the time of the hire for who what we paid I’d say Chris Mack. Now that ship sailed i’d say Bruce Pearl or Chris Beard.


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[MikeRoberts 6,921]

Interesting tweet from Jarrad Odle.  I presume he's referring to Andre Owen.
Mark my words, there is a cancer or 2 on this iu team. We had one in 2001 and when he left our world got a whole lot better.

That’s a bit harsh, I wouldn’t go as far as to say Archie is a cancer, just not leadership material for a former/aspiring blueblood


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[TheWatShot 13,695]

25 minutes ago, IUHAHN81 said:

I just wonder if the "handcuffing" is laid out in the form of making it hard for Archie to hold kids accountable.   Meaning they don't want any public rants, on court butt chewing etc.  Therefore if our players aren't doing what the coaches want them to on the court, Archie may hafta just swallow his tongue.   Just playing devil's advocate here.  

That's what I'm thinking. As a player, it would be easier to slack off knowing the administration has your back. 

 

There was a high school coach in northeast Indiana who resigned earlier this week, presumably because parents of players felt he was emotionally abusing their kids. It's just a lot harder to discipline kids these days. 

[Trish 11,506]

7 minutes ago, Bowhunter said:

 

At the time of the hire for who what we paid I’d say Chris Mack. Now that ship sailed i’d say Bruce Pearl or Chris Beard.


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I’m not high on Chris Beard. Solid coach sure, but I’d prefer a younger coach.

 

wish Dane was ready. 

[JerryYeagley23 3,133]

33 minutes ago, IUHAHN81 said:

Not disagreeing but this just kinda reiterates the point of IU hiring guys that will keep the bball program from becoming the face of the university.  To ME, and I'm no genius, it just seems like the higher ups are A OK with our bball program being just an average program. 

Bingo. 

[WayneFleekHoosier 47,976]

Interesting question.  He's not getting the job done and a new AD won't necessarily feel any allegiance to him.  Is his noticeable weight loss due to a designed weight loss program or is it stress related and possibly generating some other health issues?  Is it better to be fired or cut and run in the eyes of future employers?  IMO, resigning wouldn't be that much of a detriment to his future hire albeit maybe not a major D1 school.  I can't answer your question only add some additional questions.

Zero chance Archie walks on his own. And the reasoning is $$$$$$$$. Now, maybe they could coordinate some mutual lesser buyout or some other back channel agreement but the guaranteed money means we are stuck with Archie.

Sad day.


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[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 8,623]

We need a coach that can recruit at a high level and play a fun brand of basketball. Archie doesn’t do that. There isn’t any excitement watching an IU game under him. Even under Crean there was some offensive burst that got you going as a fan. We don’t have that under Archie. It’s like pulling teeth instead.


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[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 8,623]

Zero chance Archie walks on his own. And the reasoning is $$$$$$$$. Now, maybe they could coordinate some mutual lesser buyout or some other back channel agreement but the guaranteed money means we are stuck with Archie.

Sad day.


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Funny thing is, $17mil isn’t that much. A few donors and some cash from the budget and you can say bye bye.


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[WayneFleekHoosier 47,976]

We need a coach that can recruit at a high level and play a fun brand of basketball. Archie doesn’t do that. There isn’t any excitement watching an IU game under him. Even under Crean there was some offensive burst that got you going as a fan. We don’t have that under Archie. It’s like pulling teeth instead.


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It really is painful. Any basket scored is about a modern miracle.


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[Brass Cannon 24,271]

11 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Zero chance Archie walks on his own. And the reasoning is $$$$$$$$. Now, maybe they could coordinate some mutual lesser buyout or some other back channel agreement but the guaranteed money means we are stuck with Archie.

Sad day.


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He’d have to basically be jumping ship to another program to walk away. But with his results here I doubt that happens 

[Brass Cannon 24,271]

51 minutes ago, IUHAHN81 said:

Not disagreeing but this just kinda reiterates the point of IU hiring guys that will keep the bball program from becoming the face of the university.  To ME, and I'm no genius, it just seems like the higher ups are A OK with our bball program being just an average program. 

If only we were average. Were miles from average. 

[Hoosier1984 1,567]

Dayton keeps playing great then their coach gets hired elsewhere, wonder if Archie would jump at the chance to go back, seeing the writing on the wall.


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[JerryYeagley23 3,133]

10 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Funny thing is, $17mil isn’t that much. A few donors and some cash from the budget and you can say bye bye.


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We could cut the electric bill for a few days over Christmas break in Cook Hall and probably come up with that. IU took in $123M in revenues in 2018. A year in which we lost 12 straight games. We made a PROFIT of $6.6M. That’s without even having to tap into an eager donor base who would gladly chip in to put us back on the map. The money is there. It’s an administration decision right now not to spend it to turn things around. 

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[ebridges24 2,417]

Why not Anthony Grant, we took one from Dayton, why not another?

[Brass Cannon 24,271]

1 minute ago, ebridges24 said:

Why not Anthony Grant, we took one from Dayton, why not another?

Sure would be nice to go further than Dayton Ohio when looking for coaching candidates. 

[TheWatShot 13,695]

10 minutes ago, Hoosier1984 said:

Dayton keeps playing great then their coach gets hired elsewhere, wonder if Archie would jump at the chance to go back, seeing the writing on the wall.


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I wonder if Dayton would even want him back. They could probably hire a better coach from elsewhere. 

[ebridges24 2,417]

2 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

Sure would be nice to go further than Dayton Ohio when looking for coaching candidates. 

was being semi-sarcastic, but anything would be better than what's going on right now