Fred Glass Retiring

[mdn82 25,510]

What? 2009-2010, Butler goes 33-5 lead by Gordon Hayward and loses to Duke in the national title game. 2010-2011, Butler goes 28-10 and loses to UConn and Kemba Walker being lead by Shelvin Mack and Howard. Crazy to think fans wanted Crean gone and Stevens brought in after taking Butler to back to back title games...

 

 

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So if you hire him in 2009 you are looking into the future for his production as a coach? Not what he did in 2008-2009 for his first two years? Hindsight is great huh? He said write an article in 2009. How could they possibly know what was going to happen in the 2010 tournament Joe? Let alone talk about back to backs. Know what you are responding to Joe.

 

 

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[Joe DeLow 1,278]

So if you hire him in 2009 you are looking into the future for his production as a coach? Not what he did in 2008-2009 for his first two years? Hindsight is great huh? He said write an article in 2009. How could they possibly know what was going to happen in the 2010 tournament Joe? Let alone talk about back to backs. Know what you are responding to Joe. 
 
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He likely got his years wrong. Indiana would be in a way better situation had they pulled the trigger for Stevens over a mediocre coach in Crean. Now they could pull the trigger on Beard over a mediocre coach in Archie but that won’t happen either.


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[mdn82 25,510]

He likely got his years wrong. Indiana would be in a way better situation had they pulled the trigger for Stevens over a mediocre coach in Crean. Now they could pull the trigger on Beard over a mediocre coach in Archie but that won’t happen either.


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Huh? I responded to what he said. How does that turn into a compete convo shift Joe? How would he get his dates wrong when you were responding to me? You didn’t respond to him and tell him that? Could it be you didn’t read what was posted and were wrong? Just curious as I am very confused why you responded to me with what you did.


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[Joe DeLow 1,278]

Huh? I responded to what he said. How does that turn into a compete convo shift Joe? How would he get his dates wrong when you were responding to me? You didn’t respond to him and tell him that? Could it be you didn’t read what was posted and were wrong? Just curious as I am very confused why you responded to me with what you did.


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I responded to you because I felt he got his years wrong and that I could clear it up. Everyone gave Crean the first 2 years. But he should have been fired after year 3 and we should have moved on. The writing was on the wall at that point. It was after 13-14 and finally Glass got it through his thick skull after year 9. And Indiana is going to continue being where they are because they will hold on to Archie for far too long if he stays mediocre. We can preach that he can “learn” as he goes but if I had a nickel for every time that was said under Crean, I could probably buy Indiana University.


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[mdn82 25,510]

I responded to you because I felt he got his years wrong and that I could clear it up. Everyone gave Crean the first 2 years. But he should have been fired after year 3 and we should have moved on. The writing was on the wall at that point. It was after 13-14 and finally Glass got it through his thick skull after year 9. And Indiana is going to continue being where they are because they will hold on to Archie for far too long if he stays mediocre. We can preach that he can “learn” as he goes but if I had a nickel for every time that was said under Crean, I could probably buy Indiana University.


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I ️ you Joe


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[Joe DeLow 1,278]

Rabjohns is the only IU writer who has raised concerns about how the program is overseen. Instead of doing better, IU suppresses dissent. Shameful.

Yea well our under water basket weaving team is 15-0 so basketball doesn’t matter.


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[mdn82 25,510]

Rabjohns is the only IU writer who has raised concerns about how the program is overseen. Instead of doing better, IU suppresses dissent. Shameful.

IU has always been that way with media. Imo that is really sad. I just don’t blame the people writing about it. I think a lot of them have been critical, just moreso in places that are aloud or where IU won’t see it.

 

 

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[southernindianahoosier2 902]

So if you hire him in 2009 you are looking into the future for his production as a coach? Not what he did in 2008-2009 for his first two years? Hindsight is great huh? He said write an article in 2009. How could they possibly know what was going to happen in the 2010 tournament Joe? Let alone talk about back to backs. Know what you are responding to Joe. 
 
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There was someone at the IBj who suggested we take a look at Stevens before we hired Crean. When I typed 2009 it was a typo and I meant to say after the 2010/11 season. I think Zeller would likely have still committed. Either way, you can’t base a decision on who coaches your program based on one commit, which I believe Glass did for Zeller and then again for Thomas Bryant. I don’t think players change programs, I think coaches do


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[coonhounds 8,938]

Starting to think even Stevens would have sucked at iu right now. Archie didn't just magically forget how to coach a team. It takes time and culture. We have problems let archie have a chance to fix them. Fred goes as archie goes. Fred could easily look like a genius in a few years if football does ok and archie starts winning big.

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[Bailey7878 2,506]

I responded to you because I felt he got his years wrong and that I could clear it up. Everyone gave Crean the first 2 years. But he should have been fired after year 3 and we should have moved on. The writing was on the wall at that point. It was after 13-14 and finally Glass got it through his thick skull after year 9. And Indiana is going to continue being where they are because they will hold on to Archie for far too long if he stays mediocre. We can preach that he can “learn” as he goes but if I had a nickel for every time that was said under Crean, I could probably buy Indiana University.


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Crean should never have gotten a 4th year. Zeller saved him.

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[Uspshoosier 45,679]

Crean should never have gotten a 4th year. Zeller saved him.

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[JSHoosier 20,212]

31 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

Starting to think even Stevens would have sucked at iu right now. Archie didn't just magically forget how to coach a team. It takes time and culture. We have problems let archie have a chance to fix them. Fred goes as archie goes. Fred could easily look like a genius in a few years if football does ok and archie starts winning big.

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Why shouldn't Glass be held accountable for what he's already done?  He hired a football coach without even pretending to do an actual search for the best candidate.  My opinion on Crean staying 9 years is known.  Plus the APR issues happening right under his nose.

Why wait to hold him accountable?  Why keep giving free passes?  He needs to go, now.

[Bailey7878 2,506]

There was someone at the IBj who suggested we take a look at Stevens before we hired Crean. When I typed 2009 it was a typo and I meant to say after the 2010/11 season. I think Zeller would likely have still committed. Either way, you can’t base a decision on who coaches your program based on one commit, which I believe Glass did for Zeller and then again for Thomas Bryant. I don’t think players change programs, I think coaches do


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He for sure did for bryant imo and crean got two more years. That was a really poor decision.

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[Joe DeLow 1,278]

Someone on another site made a stunning revelation: this is the first decade since the 1960s that IU did not go to a Final Four.
Then I realized something even worse- this is the first decade in IU football history that did not have a single winning season.
How can anyone defend these results?

That’s saddening and interesting at the same time. Especially the football one. But they still have this next season technically right?


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[Alford Bailey 12,384]

1 hour ago, JSHoosier said:

Why shouldn't Glass be held accountable for what he's already done?  He hired a football coach without even pretending to do an actual search for the best candidate.  My opinion on Crean staying 9 years is known.  Plus the APR issues happening right under his nose.

Why wait to hold him accountable?  Why keep giving free passes?  He needs to go, now.

Any school serious about athletics  would fire him. IU isnt serious and it shows in results,

[Brass Cannon 24,801]

2 hours ago, JSHoosier said:

Why shouldn't Glass be held accountable for what he's already done?  He hired a football coach without even pretending to do an actual search for the best candidate.  My opinion on Crean staying 9 years is known.  Plus the APR issues happening right under his nose.

Why wait to hold him accountable?  Why keep giving free passes?  He needs to go, now.

There’s no accountability except to public anger. 

 

[Joe DeLow 1,278]

Any school serious about athletics  would fire him. IU isnt serious and it shows in results,

YeA bUt ThEy SpEnT mOnEy On A nEw LoCkEr RoOm.

Literally everyone’s answer on Twitter when you tell them that IU doesn’t care about athletics anymore. It’s all about academics and virtue signaling.


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[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

TrIgGeReD bY vIrTuE sIgNaLiNg

Look I can do it too!


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[Joe DeLow 1,278]

TrIgGeReD bY vIrTuE sIgNaLiNg

Look I can do it too!


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Triggered, no. Find it stupid, absolutely. And look where it has gotten IU. Nowhere. It’s actually went backwards.


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[HoosierAloha 30,068]

Triggered, no. Find it stupid, absolutely. And look where it has gotten IU. Nowhere. It’s actually went backwards.


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Do something about it or go whine like a little ***** somewhere else


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