(2021) SF - Aminu Mohammed to Georgetown

[hoosierbgh]

39 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Who’s we?

Figments of the imagination in those that enjoy nothing so much as anticipatory b****ing and moaning?

[WayneFleekHoosier]

43 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Who’s we?

The IU fanbase and most of this board.  It makes sense as a coping strategy.  It's what "we" (fanbase/board) do.

[Uspshoosier]

12 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

The IU fanbase and most of this board.  It makes sense as a coping strategy.  It's what "we" (fanbase/board) do.

Even you?   You didn’t smear or diminish Aminu.  

[IUc2016]

Oh I love it when people speak for me...

[Brass Cannon]

21 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

The IU fanbase and most of this board.  It makes sense as a coping strategy.  It's what "we" (fanbase/board) do.

They can’t accept it. Same people that were convinced Grant Gelon must have been a diamond in a rough that would have success because he was an Indiana kid. 

[Stuhoo]

So the theory is that since we've learned over the past few weeks Aminu may be a Georgia lean, the collective narrative has been "we didn't want him anyway?!?" The comparison of Stewart and Aminu thread talks about which one would be here longer, have an immediate impact, and cure our shooting woes. So if "how long would he be here?" comments are tearing him down, so be it.

Talentwise? Didn't find any real examples in the Aminu thread of "tearing him down," but there has been SO many through the roof compliments about him over 30 pages, and just in the last ten days there has been:

 

On 12/6/2020 at 12:01 AM, Demo said:

Being that demonstrative on court is a new thing, at least to me. In the past, while the kid unfailingly competes his a** off, his demeanor has always been almost stoic. Clearly he’s been challenged to be a more vocal leader, and I’m not sure that comes to him naturally. But, athletically, yeah, he’s just unusual. There aren’t a lot of kids with that tool kit. 

 

On 12/6/2020 at 7:27 AM, JaybobHoosier said:

Saw this. Seems he likes to post stuff about IU in some way or the other.



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On 12/6/2020 at 11:39 AM, Stuhoo said:

My understanding is that Aminu was regularly getting to the rim and getting it done in high level DC high school ball

as a freshman.

 

On 12/6/2020 at 11:47 AM, AKHoosier said:

Not all 5 stars are created equal. He doesn't have to sell everyone on his top 15 ranking.

His numbers are video game-like though, and his measurables and athleticism are off the charts.

Aminu would make us better, no doubt. We should all be ecstatic if he comes to IU. We really need recruiting momentum.

 

On 12/11/2020 at 1:06 PM, Hovadipo said:

Think they could bring OG back and give us an idea of what Aminu looks like against real competition?

 

:)

 

On 12/11/2020 at 1:18 PM, Stuhoo said:

No preemptive excuses.

Make.

It.

Happen.

 

On 12/11/2020 at 4:09 PM, jonz44 said:

30-3 in the 3rd quarter??? Hurt me, hurt me, hurt me!!!

 

On 12/14/2020 at 10:37 AM, mdn82 said:

Yep, IU and Georgia.  Georgia had a scholarship player just go elsewhere.  Not sure in this environment how that changes things.  In a normal year scholarships are May to May and you can’t gain a spot in the middle of the year. Of course the kid could pay his own way for a semester for a couple of classes.  Honestly no clue.  Would be huge.  We still need shooters.  Not sure that’s what he provides up front, but talent is talent at this point.

 

On 12/14/2020 at 2:01 PM, Hardwood83 said:

Mohammed is easy to love based on his videos- athletic and aggressive. Looks like he's ready for college. Still gotta say if he's a one & done it's not gonna break my heart if he goes elsewhere. I want talent, recruiting momentum and buzz, etc. Mostly I want wins, and being as objective as possible, most 1 & done's don't seem to equate to wins, unless you have some kind of super-class or really solid experienced players around them too. Even then seems like a mixed bag. Call me crazy and I've gone back and forth on it, but I'm not sold he helps IU wins games if he's only on campus for 8-9mos.  

 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

4 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Even you?   You didn’t smear or diminish Aminu.  

True.  Not me.  

[Brass Cannon]

3 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

So the theory is that since we've learned over the past few weeks Aminu may be a Georgia lean, we've been reading "we didn't want him anyway?!?" The comparison of Stewart and Aminu thread talks about which one would be here longer, have an immediate impact, and cure our shooting woes. So if "how long would he be here?" comments are tearing him down, so be it.

Talentwise? Didn't find any real examples in the Aminu thread of "tearing him down," but there has been SO many through the roof compliments about him over 30 pages, and just in the last ten days there has been:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We created a topic comparing him to Parker Stewart and it didn’t get laughed off the board. That in itself is diminishing Aminu 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

7 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

We created a topic comparing him to Parker Stewart and it didn’t get laughed off the board. That in itself is diminishing Aminu 

and more people wanted PS or a nearly even number.  Interesting.  

Same song and dance with recruiting.  That's another reason why having a consistent winner would be so nice, we wouldn't have to worry about recruiting woes because we would have faith that the coach can win with the guys on the court.  

Edited December 16, 2020 by WayneFleekHoosier

[Stuhoo]

8 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

We created a topic comparing him to Parker Stewart and it didn’t get laughed off the board. That in itself is diminishing Aminu 

While you're entitled to your opinion, I think that is nonsense, poppycock, balderdash, bullshirt.

Comparing the relative value for one year or so of a proven catch and shoot high-character 22 year old to a mega-talented 18 year old is most certainly NOT diminishing to either.

Let me ask you this: Which player do you think would contribute more to IU in the next year, Rob Phinisee, Parker Stewart, or #5 overall (and #1 sg) five star BJ Boston?

Here's what Big Blew Nation thinks:

https://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/threads/b-j-boston-is-a-bust.333042/

The gripes?

• Not a bust, but the problem is he's gonna go pro before he is ever ready to contribute.
• He doesn't hit open shots.
• He turns it over way too much.
• He isn't ready yet.
• We can't expect him to perform to the level of a college-ready junior or senior.

[hoosierbgh]

The discussion is of need vs. talent, even necessity vs. luxury, not of the relative talents of both players. Considering such debates are long running and in nearly every sport, it's fairly obvious that it is a valid discussion. Less obvious is how one manages to see that as a talent comparison or why one would go out of the way to do so. 

 

 

[ebridges24]

24 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

While you're entitled to your opinion, I think that is nonsense, poppycock, balderdash, bullshirt.

Comparing the relative value for one year or so of a proven catch and shoot high-character 22 year old to a mega-talented 18 year old is most certainly NOT diminishing to either.

Let me ask you this: Which player do you think would contribute more to IU in the next year, Rob Phinisee, Parker Stewart, or #5 overall (and #1 sg) five star BJ Boston?

Here's what Big Blew Nation thinks:

https://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/threads/b-j-boston-is-a-bust.333042/

The gripes?

• Not a bust, but the problem is he's gonna go pro before he is ever ready to contribute.
• He doesn't hit open shots.
• He turns it over way too much.
• He isn't ready yet.
• We can't expect him to perform to the level of a college-ready junior or senior.

You did put your hazmat suit on before you went to the UK forum, didn't you?

[Stuhoo]

1 minute ago, ebridges24 said:

You did put your hazmat suit on before you went to the UK forum, didn't you?

[HoosierAloha]

Are we this closed minded?

I don't think we've been in the running for Aminu for awhile.  I believe the coaches were hoping they could overcome some obstacles and land him but it's not in the cards.  The Indiana hype train for highly ranked recruits is real.  Can someone believe that Aminu is far more talented but that Parker is a better fit for this team?  That might seems crazy far out but I guess some see that as IU fans 'coping' with another recruiting defeat.  If Aminu plays college ball it'll be interesting to see how much he contributes to the W/L record of his team.

[Uspshoosier]

55 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

and more people wanted PS or a nearly even number.  Interesting.  

Same song and dance with recruiting.  That's another reason why having a consistent winner would be so nice, we wouldn't have to worry about recruiting woes because we would have faith that the coach can win with the guys on the court.  

Lol you know that wouldn’t happen.   Kentucky, Kansas, Duke,  ..... name a basketball school go to their boards and watch the meltdown after a recruiting miss, a loss,  or any other negative  thing.  
 

you are right on message boards it is the same song and dance.    When schools hit on targets and win games most  people on message boards are happier.      When schools lose out on recruits and lose games most people on message boards are mad and sad.   

[WayneFleekHoosier]

10 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Lol you know that wouldn’t happen.   Kentucky, Kansas, Duke,  ..... name a basketball school go to their boards and watch the meltdown after a recruiting miss, a loss,  or any other negative  thing.  
 

you are right on message boards it is the same song and dance.    When schools hit on targets and win games most  people on message boards are happier.      When schools lose out on recruits and lose games most people on message boards are mad and sad.   

True.  Speaking for myself, it would.  Take Michigan State for example.  They don't always knock it out of the park with recruiting.  They seem to get guys when they need them and lesser players seem to play well as they get older.  It's a system that breeds confidence by most, including the media.  It's generally true.  I don't pay as much attention to their recruiting because Izzo will have them playing well regardless.  When he hits a few homeruns, they become dangerous.  I'd like to feel that way about Indiana basketball eventually in regards to recruiting.  

[Uspshoosier]

50 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

True.  Speaking for myself, it would.  Take Michigan State for example.  They don't always knock it out of the park with recruiting.  They seem to get guys when they need them and lesser players seem to play well as they get older.  It's a system that breeds confidence by most, including the media.  It's generally true.  I don't pay as much attention to their recruiting because Izzo will have them playing well regardless.  When he hits a few homeruns, they become dangerous.  I'd like to feel that way about Indiana basketball eventually in regards to recruiting.  

I’m just saying even Spartys fan base  hammers Izzo after  recruiting misses even with all his success.    When they were missing out on top targets it got ugly over there.   When they missed on TJD it was the end of the world.   Same thing different message board.  Rinse, Repeat 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

2 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

I’m just saying even Spartys fan base  hammers Izzo after  recruiting misses even with all his success.    When they were missing out on top targets it got ugly over there.   When they missed on TJD it was the end of the world.   Same thing different message board.  Rinse, Repeat 

Yes, you'll always have those.  When we post 5 year runs like MSU does for the past 20 years I'll trust in coach.  Until then, I don't.  As evidence, Archie's results on the court, and specifically with grad transfers has yet to breed confidence.  

[Uspshoosier]

2 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Yes, you'll always have those.  When we post 5 year runs like MSU does for the past 20 years I'll trust in coach.  Until then, I don't.  As evidence, Archie's results on the court, and specifically with grad transfers has yet to breed confidence.  

That makes sense.   Every person in a fan base or a message board has their own way of dealing or coping with results good or bad 

[ebridges24]

5 hours ago, Hardwood83 said:

Yes. I think Stewart v. Mohammed is a false choice for a few reasons- Stewart might be available right away, that is less likely with AM. Second, Stewart is much more likely to be around longer. AM could conceivably only impact 30-35games in his one season. Stewart could play in over 80.

Another is experience. Stewart has a track record. Aminu has played HS kids. That is not diminishing him, merely a statement of fact. Exhibit A: How many of us expected Lander to be the starting PG for IU already? 

Not saying Aminu isn't gonna be a great college player that could help IU or wouldn't smoke Parker in 1 on 1, just saying when all the considerations are taken, it's not as simple as "5* good, un-heralded transfer bad"

 

My hand's up