Bailey7878 Posted January 24, 2019 Posted January 24, 2019 With our current record, we’re currently a 7-9 seed. This comes from various sources Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile appI still think the next two games are must wins before the beatdown at michigan state. That would put usat 5-6 with two home games after that.Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk Quote
Alford Bailey Posted January 24, 2019 Posted January 24, 2019 8 hours ago, IUc2016 said: Yes rob Phinesse is a FRESHMAN that was ranked 125ish. He is starting at point guard on a big ten team. Look at the other top big ten teams and tell me who he should start over at THIS point in his career. Cassius Winston? Ranked: 31 (junior) Carson Edwards? 118 (junior) Glenn Watson? 75 (senior) Zavier Simpson - 67 (junior) Anthony Cowan Jr.? 62 (junior) The top teams in this league have an experienced, and talented point guard. We do not. I love rob, but he is not there YET. IU starts Zach Mcroberts. A walk-on. Not only is he a walk-on, he has 15 total point this year and won’t shoot the ball. What other top big ten team would he play major minutes for? Justin Smith. A sophomore who is still developing. Ranked around 100. Maybe he should be more productive than he is, but I don’t think that’s on Archie. Once you watch him play, you can’t tell me he is a starting caliber big ten player (for a top team) at this point in his career. IU’s first guy off the bench is Al Durham. A sophomore Ranked around 230. If you want to go off pure rankings, he is not a guy you should rely heavily on in his sophomore year if you want to be top 3-4 in the Big ten. Yes IU starts Romeo, another freshman. And Juwan a senior. This team has 12 wins because they have carried them despite the glaring holes in the rest of the roster. Two players don’t get it done in this league without quality experience around them. Take 2016-2017 Michigan State for example. Started THREE five stars Cassius Winston, Miles bridges, and Joshua Langford. A high four star in nick ward. That team went 18-13 and barely made the tournament in a weak big ten. TALENTED EXPERIENCE MATTERS. IU doesn’t have nearly enough of it. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Agree with this. Chris007 1 Quote
Baltimore Hoosier Posted January 24, 2019 Posted January 24, 2019 1 hour ago, IUc2016 said: Well, high school rankings are pretty good indicators of talent and impact. Yes with any rule their are exceptions, but for the most part the recruiting services get it right. However, I only used the recruiting rankings because he did. He stated we had 4 and 5 stars in our starting lineup. Which is true. But if someone wants to use the recruit rankings to show we have a lot of talent, I am going to use that same logic to show that according to those services, we are nowhere near the top of the league in terms of talent/experience. So, it is actually the best way to prove the point I was making. Not being critical of why you used those metrics, because I get that. Just saying I've never seen any data to back up the correlation between high school rankings and college output. I can think of several current NBA Superstars and even a Hall of Famer or two off the top of my head who weren't in the top 50/100 nationally coming out of high school and blew up in college. HOWEVER, using the eye test, I think what you're saying is 100% spot on. IUc2016 1 Quote
Baltimore Hoosier Posted January 24, 2019 Posted January 24, 2019 1 hour ago, HoosierDYT said: With our current record, we’re currently a 7-9 seed. This comes from various sources Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app Got it.. Where this team is sitting today doesn't really mean anything though. The schedule is brutal coming down the stretch. Quote
Walking Boot of Doom Posted January 24, 2019 Posted January 24, 2019 “New NET rankings out today. Indiana now has 4 quad 1 wins and zero losses outside quad 1. Resume to date is tourney worthy. Their play questionable. Probabaly a 7/8 if season ended today. One win and things will look better” Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Quote
Walking Boot of Doom Posted January 24, 2019 Posted January 24, 2019 Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners ALASKA HOOSIER 1 Quote
Josh Posted January 24, 2019 Posted January 24, 2019 Soooooo....all is well. Got it. Hovadipo 1 Quote
Stuhoo Posted January 24, 2019 Posted January 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Josh said: Soooooo....all is well. Got it. There is a whole lotta middle ground between "all is well" and "all is broken." Chris007, Josh, Walking Boot of Doom and 2 others 4 1 Quote
Walking Boot of Doom Posted January 24, 2019 Posted January 24, 2019 Soooooo....all is well. Got it.I mean, we’re still in the tournament. And there’s still plenty of room for improvement and injury recovery. So yes and no. Have some flexibility. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app coonhounds and thebigweave 2 Quote
yogisballin Posted January 25, 2019 Posted January 25, 2019 I still think the next two games are must wins before the beatdown at michigan state. That would put usat 5-6 with two home games after that.Sent from my SM-J700T using TapatalkNo way we go 2-0. We go 1-1 at the very bestSent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Bailey7878 Posted January 25, 2019 Posted January 25, 2019 No way we go 2-0. We go 1-1 at the very bestSent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appI agree im just stating what we need to do to keep in the tourney hunt. Now its likely not going to happen.Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk Quote
Uspshoosier Posted January 25, 2019 Posted January 25, 2019 Leaning so heavily on this NET crap is going to ruin things. It’s gotta be 50/50 on numbers and eye test. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appThey leaned on RPI before this year so I don’t see anything changing from before. They will use the NET instead of RPI. NET isn’t only thing they will use in determining teams. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app thebigweave and mamasa 2 Quote
Ranger78 Posted January 25, 2019 Posted January 25, 2019 I just want to see some defensive up take. It’s simple play harder then the other team (well maybe not). I’ll let the brain trust speak about the offensive challenges. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Quote
Ranger78 Posted January 25, 2019 Posted January 25, 2019 Lol with the pompous attitude of some of the posters on here. I think some of you truly think you could do it better. Laughable...Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Walking Boot of Doom, BGleas, Dhop and 2 others 4 1 Quote
Alford Bailey Posted January 25, 2019 Posted January 25, 2019 35 minutes ago, Joe DeLow said: And the NET seems as messed up if not more than the RPI. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Makes me wonder how bad the records will be on some of these tourney teams. Quote
Popular Post HoosierAloha Posted January 25, 2019 Popular Post Posted January 25, 2019 Poster B : we are terriblePoster A: but still in tourney todayPoster B: but we’re terriblePoster A: yes, we’re not playing well but still in the tourneyPoster B: we’re not a tourney teamPoster A: the NET says we’re currently a tourney teamPoster B: the NET is so screwed upPoster A: it’s what they use to determine who’s in. We’re in right nowPoster B: the NET is terriblePoster A: they have to get to 68 teams, our resume gets us in right nowPoster B: they need to change itPoster A: 🤪I’m enjoying BTB almost as much as the Big Ten right now. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners moyemayhem, Crimson and Cream, Capt. Crimson and 13 others 13 3 Quote
Uspshoosier Posted January 25, 2019 Posted January 25, 2019 Makes me wonder how bad the records will be on some of these tourney teams.Oklahoma got in last year with a 18-13 (8-10)A couple years ago Vandy got in with 15 losses and they were not even in the first 4. Teams with terrible records are always going to get in regardless of what metric is used Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Stuhoo 1 Quote
Stuhoo Posted January 25, 2019 Posted January 25, 2019 Lunardi's updated bracketology came out this morning. IUBB currently projected as a 9 seed; not listed as one of the last eight in (last four in + four play-in round teams). So, let's start winning some games again; that will quickly make this discussion a non-issue. Str8Hoosiers, HoosierDYT, thebigweave and 4 others 7 Quote
Josh Posted January 26, 2019 Posted January 26, 2019 We can scream that all is well, we are a tournament team with a bright future all we want. That doesn't make this ok. We are terrible in every facet of the game. Again. That's a huge problem. southsidehoosier 1 Quote
Woodsonshump Posted January 26, 2019 Posted January 26, 2019 We’re not a tournament team, nor should we be. southsidehoosier 1 Quote
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