WayneFleekHoosier Posted August 3, 2018 Posted August 3, 2018 Anyone watching the TBT tournament. Elam Ending! I love it! Discuss........... Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app MikeRoberts 1 Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted August 3, 2018 Author Posted August 3, 2018 My only critique is maybe it should start at the 2 minute mark vs the 4. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners MikeRoberts 1 Quote
MikeRoberts Posted August 3, 2018 Posted August 3, 2018 I will respond so you don’t have to have a conversation with yourself:)Yes, big fan of it, makes endings a little more fun to watch and agree 2 minutes is probably betterSent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app WayneFleekHoosier 1 Quote
woodenshoemanHoosierfan Posted August 3, 2018 Posted August 3, 2018 Anyone watching the TBT tournament. Elam Ending! I love it! Discuss........... Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appI think it's the dumbest rule since advancing the ball at a TOSent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk MemphisHoosier and BGVille Hoosierfan 2 Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted August 3, 2018 Author Posted August 3, 2018 I think it's the dumbest rule since advancing the ball at a TOSent from my SM-G930V using TapatalkCare to explain? Bold words and comment with zero support. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Hovadipo and MikeRoberts 2 Quote
Stuhoo Posted August 3, 2018 Posted August 3, 2018 It's certainly got its attraction, but no more buzzer beaters. I'd have to see it in real college bball games to truly know if I liked it. HinnyHoosier 1 Quote
Brass Cannon Posted August 3, 2018 Posted August 3, 2018 Would have almost certainly have resulted in my favorite win ever be a loss. So I’ll pass. woodenshoemanHoosierfan and BGVille Hoosierfan 2 Quote
VO5 Posted August 3, 2018 Posted August 3, 2018 I think people are liking it right now because it’s novel. Personally, I don’t think it will be as exciting down the road and it gets rid of those special buzzer beating moments. it has it’s merit for sure and I can understand why people like it, I just don’t see how it improves the game besides the last minute or 2 of fouls. Teams have won games like that before and it takes away that opportunity. A downfall is that it puts any decent lead pretty much out of reach. BGVille Hoosierfan, woodenshoemanHoosierfan and mdn82 3 Quote
HinnyHoosier Posted August 3, 2018 Posted August 3, 2018 It's certainly got its attraction, but no more buzzer beaters. I'd have to see it in real college bball games to truly know if I liked it. Agreed. The intention is good, but I struggle to envision it in March Madness. That being said, I've only watched it twice and I'm very willing to give it a large sample size. I could feel differently if I were to see it on a larger scale and in a raucous hoops/fan environment. As long as we don't start advancing the ball on timeouts....Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Brass Cannon Posted August 3, 2018 Posted August 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, VO5 said: I think people are liking it right now because it’s novel. Personally, I don’t think it will be as exciting down the road and it gets rid of those special buzzer beating moments. it has it’s merit for sure and I can understand why people like it, I just don’t see how it improves the game besides the last minute or 2 of fouls. Teams have won games like that before and it takes away that opportunity. A downfall is that it puts any decent lead pretty much out of reach. Really I think it would result in more comebacks. No clock to worry about just play D MikeRoberts and WayneFleekHoosier 2 Quote
woodenshoemanHoosierfan Posted August 3, 2018 Posted August 3, 2018 Care to explain? Bold words and comment with zero support. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appDecourcy says it better than I couldhttps://www.sportingnews.com/us/amp/ncaa-division-i/news/ncaa-rules-committee-elam-ending-rule-college-basketball/uh3fsi2e95v61mn02clpb7p4c?__twitter_impression=trueI'll add with this rule we could go from having 4 min left in the game to the game being over in 65 seconds because they reached a certain score? Sounds stupid to meSent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk Quote
Stuhoo Posted August 3, 2018 Posted August 3, 2018 Sneak preview of what an Elam Ending will look like: Quote
Brass Cannon Posted August 3, 2018 Posted August 3, 2018 Plus no more OT games. woodenshoemanHoosierfan 1 Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted August 3, 2018 Author Posted August 3, 2018 Let me add this thought about buzzer beaters. Every single game, every one will have a winning basket or shot. It makes the final play exciting even in a blowout game. Plus you will have ‘buzzer beater’ type shots in close games that are decided by less than 3 points. Saying this rule is stupid is merely uneducated. This system has tons of merit. I’d suggest looking into it before calling it stupid. I’m not saying I want college hoops to go to this but I think it’s worth looking into further. My biggest change would be adjusting the starting time. (First stoppage under 4 minutes left) is too much time imo. I’m thinking under 2. Games may be slightly longer but that’s okay. Those last 2 minutes will be the hardest played basketball all game every game. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners MikeRoberts 1 Quote
Uspshoosier Posted August 3, 2018 Posted August 3, 2018 I have no problem with them doing this in basketball tournaments during the summer but I would have a hard time adjusting to it in the college game. Having a clock for 90% of a game and then say the last whatever minutes doesn’t have a clock seem difficult for me to get behind. I’ve seen the data and purpose of why they do it I just don’t personally care it. Yes every game would technically end on a buzzer beater but the suspense of the clock running down and pressure in that moment is gone. Also basically no more half court shots to win games. Gordon Heyward’s almost shot going in against duke would of never happen. If people have a chance watch the final 10 minutes of the game below and all the OT in it. Now imagine that game with 4 minutes left in regulation they set a score and play it out Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners VO5, mdn82 and woodenshoemanHoosierfan 3 Quote
woodenshoemanHoosierfan Posted August 3, 2018 Posted August 3, 2018 Tge game is great the way it is. No need to change itSent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk HoosierHoops1 1 Quote
mdn82 Posted August 3, 2018 Posted August 3, 2018 Yeah I have watched quite a few TBT games. I can see value in the Elam system I just prefer the current structure. There was one game where the I believe CWat was on against Boeheims Army there was a double digit lead. They got it down by fouling a 30% foul shooter. So there is still strategy to be had and finality in games where a team has to finish. I personally prefer the clock winding down with a college atmosphere with the ability to make a memory. If every game ended on a shot we don’t have Keith Smart. We don’t have CWat due to the point system. Honestly I dont know that we win those games. It changes the dynamic.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners VO5 and woodenshoemanHoosierfan 2 Quote
Ryno6284 Posted August 4, 2018 Posted August 4, 2018 9 hours ago, Stuhoo said: Sneak preview of what an Elam Ending will look like: That isn't funny! He beat my Raiders way too many times when he was with Denver! Stuhoo 1 Quote
LIHoosier Posted August 4, 2018 Posted August 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Ryno6284 said: That isn't funny! He beat my Raiders way too many times when he was with Denver! Forget that. I've watched pirated cable with better clarity than this. As for the Elam ending, I'd like to see it in the CBI, CIT, or whatever tertiary postseason tournaments before its even proposed for NCAA games or tourneys. WayneFleekHoosier and Hutch89 2 Quote
Alford Bailey Posted August 4, 2018 Posted August 4, 2018 Agree with Decourcy. A gimmick. Do something to make fouling less advantageous. woodenshoemanHoosierfan 1 Quote
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