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2 minutes ago, TXHoosierDaddy said:

Yep QB play is killing us. I wonder if they will try out Reese for QB next yr? 

I thought Ramsey played well yesterday. He still has some things to work on, but he put up enough points to get the win. The defense/special teams just didn't bring it. 

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15 hours ago, TXHoosierDaddy said:

Lemonis < Smith. Did he hire Smith? If so, I retract this statement. But Lemonis is nowhere close to Smith as far as coaching is concerned. Lemonis just like Allen had no head coaching experience before taking the job. 

Well if it makes you feel any better, Tracy Smith will probably be on the market next summer. 

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I thought Ramsey played well yesterday. He still has some things to work on, but he put up enough points to get the win. The defense/special teams just didn't bring it. 

Special teams were turrble!

 

Lost 7 points to a blocked punt returned for a TD.

Two kickoffs out of bounds.

Shanked punts giving great field position.

Blocked EXTRA-FREAKING-POINT

Blocked FG (?)

 

How many points is that? AND we lost by 3?!

 

Edit: a long kickoff return that setup another TD.

 

Our defense wasn't great in this game but when your special teams and offense set you up for failure it's hard to win.

 

It'll be nice to see a full game where the pieces complement each other. We usually have one aspect of the game completely **** us. Yesterday, it was special teams, AGAIN.

 

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1 hour ago, mdn82 said:


I don't know man. He has been bad with talent. Would hate to see what he would do with our level of talent.


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Bad with talent? They won the SEC East two of the three years he's been there. This is much more than wins and losses based on what I have been reading. 

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Bad with talent? They won the SEC East two of the three years he's been there. This is much more than wins and losses based on what I have been reading. 

Yes you can win the East with two or three losses. 22-12 at Florida is like 10-24 here. It tends to wear on people. The AD wants to keep his job. 22-12 is not how how you do that at Florida on your hire. This was his way out. It bought him another hire. Yes, bad with the talent. Top 10 talent with those results.


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9 hours ago, mdn82 said:


Yes you can win the East with two or three losses. 22-12 at Florida is like 10-24 here. It tends to wear on people. The AD wants to keep his job. 22-12 is not how how you do that at Florida on your hire. This was his way out. It bought him another hire. Yes, bad with the talent. Top 10 talent with those results.


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He was nowhere close to the hot seat coming into this year so something happened. There are a number of stories out there but the bottom line is there was some type of falling out with the AD/athletic dept. Muschamp got 4 years at Florida and was a much bigger disaster than Mcelwain was.

They also had the #11 recruiting class this yr and #7 for 2018. Maybe he wasn't Urban Meyer at UF but half of a bad season isn't the reason they are going in another direction here. 

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He was nowhere close to the hot seat coming into this year so something happened. There are a number of stories out there but the bottom line is there was some type of falling out with the AD/athletic dept. Muschamp got 4 years at Florida and was a much bigger disaster than Mcelwain was.
They also had the #11 recruiting class this yr and #7 for 2018. Maybe he wasn't Urban Meyer at UF but half of a bad season isn't the reason they are going in another direction here. 

Yeah, 3-4 in year 3 tends to do that in a place like Florida. Look, you are an IU fan right. Were you ok with periodic B1G titles and Sweet 16? Winning a division for Florida isn't even winning conference. After 3 years they weren't scoring points and he was an offensive coach. They were playing worse. Not sure why we have to go digging for the grassy knoll on this one. It just isn't there.


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24 minutes ago, TXHoosierDaddy said:

He was nowhere close to the hot seat coming into this year so something happened.

This appears to be the straw that broke the camel's back  when there didn't appear to be any conclusive evidence to support his death threat claims.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/10/24/16528762/jim-mcelwain-florida-death-threats

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21 minutes ago, mdn82 said:


Yeah, 3-4 in year 3 tends to do that in a place like Florida. Look, you are an IU fan right. Were you ok with periodic B1G titles and Sweet 16? Winning a division for Florida isn't even winning conference. After 3 years they weren't scoring points and he was an offensive coach. They were playing worse. Not sure why we have to go digging for the grassy knoll on this one. It just isn't there.


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And he apparently lied about getting death threats. 

 

Edit: Old Fart beat me by a hair!

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11 minutes ago, mdn82 said:


Yeah, 3-4 in year 3 tends to do that in a place like Florida. Look, you are an IU fan right. Were you ok with periodic B1G titles and Sweet 16? Winning a division for Florida isn't even winning conference. After 3 years they weren't scoring points and he was an offensive coach. They were playing worse. Not sure why we have to go digging for the grassy knoll on this one. It just isn't there.


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Yep and Crean kept getting chance after chance so it's quite the opposite at UF.   9 seasons vs 2.5 seasons. And Mcelwain won the East in his first two years, which wasn't happening too often there when Muschamp took over. That's like Crean finishing in the top 2 or 3 in the BIG, which according to this brass would have been seen as a huge success.

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