Indiana @ Penn State Official Game Thread 9/30 - 330 on BTN

[JSHoosier]

Lagow took a knee.  Okay, he can do that I just don't want to see him drop back to pass.

[LamarCheeks]

In Lagow's defense, he did a helluva job on that kneel down to end the half. 

[mdn82]

Well, #4 team in the country on the road with that start on special teams? 28-14. #NoHighSchoolCoachesAllowed


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[Hoosierfan2017]

1 minute ago, JSHoosier said:

Ramsey made good passes that drive too.  Better than many passes Lagow makes.  Ramsey has things he needs to improve on because he's a freshman, Lagow is experienced and plays like a freshman.

He has a good enough arm to not be a liability throwing the football. He seems to have good decision making. His legs open up the running game. He's shown enough to make me believe that his success against Virginia wasn't just the result of the team not game planning for him. At the very worst him and Lagow are equal quarterbacks, all things considered. I see no reason for him not to be qb1 moving forward. 

[mdn82]

He has a good enough arm to not be a liability throwing the football. He seems to have good decision making. His legs open up the running game. He's shown enough to make me believe that his success against Virginia wasn't just the result of the team not game planning for him. At the very worst him and Lagow are equal quarterbacks, all things considered. I see no reason for him not to be qb1 moving forward. 

Agreed. He can't throw it 30-50 times. We throw it with him 20-25 times with half being RPO we will be fine.


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[LamarCheeks]

1 minute ago, mdn82 said:

Well, #4 team in the country on the road with that start on special teams? 28-14. #NoHighSchoolCoachesAllowed


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And we get the ball to start the second half. 

[JSHoosier]

5 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

He has a good enough arm to not be a liability throwing the football. He seems to have good decision making. His legs open up the running game. He's shown enough to make me believe that his success against Virginia wasn't just the result of the team not game planning for him. At the very worst him and Lagow are equal quarterbacks, all things considered. I see no reason for him not to be qb1 moving forward. 

Ramsey isn't going to carry a team with his arm, at least right now, but Lagow can't either.  Hell, I don't even like these so called "dual threat" QBs, and I'd still take Ramsey over Lagow.

[Hoosierfan2017]

1 minute ago, mdn82 said:

Agreed. He can't throw it 30-50 times. We throw it with him 20-25 times with half being RPO we will be fine.


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Exactly. If we can run the ball effectively and keep him at 20-25 passes a game we'll be good. Ellison is looking like he's ready to be the feature back right now. I say hand the two of them the keys and let em loose. It gives us our best shot both now and in the future. 

[cthomas]

My worry with Ramsey is the beating he takes when he runs. I know Allen prefers a running quarterback but I would rather have a mobile pocket quarterback who can extend plays with his legs.

[DChoosier]

He did use very good form when he took the knee. A fundamentally sound kneel down.

Kudos to the team for settling down after a comically bad start. Good to see they did not go in the tank.

[Hoosierfan2017]

2 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

Ramsey isn't going to carry a team with his arm, at least right now, but Lagow can't either.  Hell, I don't even like these so called "dual threat" QBs, and I'd still take Ramsey over Lagow.

Our defense is pretty good this season but they wear out in the second halves. With Ramsey we can run a ground and pound offense that keeps our defense off the field. Ramsey's a "dual threat" qb but I like that his first instinct doesn't seem to be to tuck the ball and run. If he can just be a game manager for us this year it's still better than what we get with Lagow. 

[Hoosierfan2017]

4 minutes ago, cthomas said:

My worry with Ramsey is the beating he takes when he runs. I know Allen prefers a running quarterback but I would rather have a mobile pocket quarterback who can extend plays with his legs.

Ramsey's 6'2, 210 pounds so he's got decent size. Of course it's best to limit the number of hits he takes as much as possible, but I'm not toooo worried about it. 

[JSHoosier]

1 minute ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Our defense is pretty good this season but they wear out in the second halves. With Ramsey we can run a ground and pound offense that keeps our defense off the field. Ramsey's a "dual threat" qb but I like that his first instinct doesn't seem to be to tuck the ball and run. If he can just be a game manager for us this year it's still better than what we get with Lagow. 

If the offense could sustain some drives that'd help the defense get rested, the defense spends too much time on the field.  Ramsey seems to look to pass first, which is good, although I could do with fewer designed QB runs but that's on the play calling not the player.

[HoosierAloha]

Well, #4 team in the country on the road with that start on special teams? 28-14. #NoHighSchoolCoachesAllowed


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Come on bud, you're better than this.


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[Stuhoo]

Other than injury, there is no reason, no reason whatsoever, for Lagow to ever play instead of Ramsey again.



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[JSHoosier]

Someone hide Lagow's helmet, please.

[HoosierAloha]

They fought hard that second quarter. I'd like to see a strong drive led by Ramsey to open the second half. If we put points on the board to start we have a chance!


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[LIHoosier]

Fair is fair, that was an awful pass Ramsey.

[JSHoosier]

Damn, Ramsey.  Just when I was feeling better about this game he goes and pulls a Lagow.

[JSHoosier]

Just now, LIHoosier said:

Fair is fair, that was an awful pass Ramsey.

Oh yeah.