Corruption in College Basketball

[Capt. Crimson 3,414]

Just now, Alford Bailey said:

Dont get me wrong Im glad Lousiville is going down but I REALLLY want to see UK or Duke get caught up in this.

I personally don't want to see any team get caught up in this. Glad it's being outed, but wishing it upon other teams isn't really a road I want to go down. Could easily be us as well.

[AZ Hoosier 6,170]

1 hour ago, reconmkd said:

Coach 1 is Jordan Fair from Louisville, supposedly Kenny Johnson is not apart of this investigation.

My question here would be relative to "guilt by association". If a school like Louisville is one of the first dominoes to fall, and slick Rick is the first head coach to get axed, and at least one of the assistant coaches on Pitino's staff is implicated, how can one, with a straight face, claim that other assistant coaches are not involved to some extent? And I define "involved" to include everything from having their fingerprints on the evidence, to even knowing that something was going on. There are sins of commission as well as sins of omission... and when the cesspool is this deep, is one really more egregious than the other?

[wirenuts 1,055]

I personally don't want to see any team get caught up in this. Glad it's being outed, but wishing it upon other teams isn't really a road I want to go down. Could easily be us as well.

Not even Kentucky? Purdue? At least a little bit?

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[Capt. Crimson 3,414]

Just now, wirenuts said:

Not even Kentucky? Purdue? At least a little bit?

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What's the fun in having rivals if it's not competitive?

 

[Tom White 1,435]

29 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

Pitino is like Nixon. He just can't stop lying.

I agree, but I'm also thinking of a much, much more recent comparison. In fact it could come under the label of "current events".

[wirenuts 1,055]

What's the fun in having rivals if it's not competitive?
 

Fair enough. I would personally love to see Kentucky at the plank if they are dirty. Not so much Purdue. I just don't like them

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[AZ Hoosier 6,170]

2 minutes ago, Capt. Crimson said:

I personally don't want to see any team get caught up in this. Glad it's being outed, but wishing it upon other teams isn't really a road I want to go down. Could easily be us as well.

For me, it's not so much about "wishing it upon other teams", as much as it is wishing that the other teams WHO ARE DOING THE SAME THING also get hammered for their actions.

[Brass Cannon 24,082]

4 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

Dont get me wrong Im glad Lousiville is going down but I REALLLY want to see UK or Duke get caught up in this.

My list is Kansas, UNC and UK

[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

Another interesting angle to this, Adidas and presumably the other shoe companies effectively damaged programs they have contracts with to promote ones that were willing to "play the game" with them. If I'm the innocent programs under the Adidas umbrella, I'm hitting them hard about contracts.

[Capt. Crimson 3,414]

Just now, AZ Hoosier said:

For me, it's not so much about "wishing it upon other teams", as much as it is wishing that the other teams WHO ARE DOING THE SAME THING also get hammered for their actions.

If it does it does, but innocent until proven guilty.

[reconmkd 4,196]

1 minute ago, AZ Hoosier said:

My question here would be relative to "guilt by association". If a school like Louisville is one of the first dominoes to fall, and slick Rick is the first head coach to get axed, and at least one of the assistant coaches on Pitino's staff is implicated, how can one, with a straight face, claim that other assistant coaches are not involved to some extent? And I define "involved" to include everything from having their fingerprints on the evidence, to even knowing that something was going on. There are sins of commission as well as sins of omission... and when the cesspool is this deep, is one really more egregious than the other?

Guilty by association is very plausible. It is said that KJ was not apart of the document, but another associate coach was mentioned without a name or codename. I'm just overly curious as to what this will do to Slick Rick, if it is true that he is "coach 2"?

[Banksyrules 4,309]

This investigation might force the NCAA to be tough on UNC. Show they have some semblance of being an organization that can lay tough punishments as well. FBI makes them look idiotic and weak and might want to disprove that notion.  

[wirenuts 1,055]

Another interesting angle to this, Adidas and presumably the other shoe companies effectively damaged programs they have contracts with to promote ones that were willing to "play the game" with them. If I'm the innocent programs under the Adidas umbrella, I'm hitting them hard about contracts.

Yep. There could be quite the changing of the guard on teams and their shoe companies

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[AZ Hoosier 6,170]

1 minute ago, Capt. Crimson said:

If it does it does, but innocent until proven guilty.

Yeah, innocent until proven guilty... but if it walks like a duck...

[Stuhoo 76,810]

1 minute ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Yeah, innocent until proven guilty... but if it walks like a duck...

 

Yup...Oregon football and basketball are likely bribing players too!  :)

 

[wirenuts 1,055]

Maybe puma still makes shoes?

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[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

1 minute ago, wirenuts said:

Yep. There could be quite the changing of the guard on teams and their shoe companies

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Almost no reason to change right, since both AAU and EYBL are about to be rocked it seems, but these "clean" schools will definitely have ALL of the leverage.

[ALASKA HOOSIER 11,213]

KangaROOs! they have little pockets to keep your gym key in them.

[wirenuts 1,055]

Almost no reason to change right, since both AAU and EYBL are about to be rocked it seems, but these "clean" schools will definitely have ALL of the leverage.

No reason to change unless one of those companies makes a much better offer. Or a new company makes their way into the fold. Looking at you, big baller brand!

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[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

Head coaches know everything that goes on with their program, AD's know everything that goes on within their department, and university presidents know everything to happens at their university. Tone at the top either allows or prevents cheating and misconduct of this complexity at all levels. Everyone in the chain of command is complicit in this, in my opinion.