Welcome Coach Miller

[rebelhoosier848891]

Zach Osterman‏Verified account @ZachOsterman  3m3 minutes ago More Replying to @ZachOsterman

Knight followed up with his own estimation: "You folks get behind him, and I think you're gonna enjoy some good basketball." #iubb

 

Apparently CAM is RMK approved...

I know I shouldn't care at this point what Knight thinks --but part of me still does. Knight was the Coach I grew up with and while I did not agree with everything he did or said ---I would have ran through a brick wall for him as a student. Glad he approves of Archie and I still hold out a faint hope of an IU/Knight reunion someday. Maybe Archie can get that done. As I posted on here a few years back--we'll Motel 6 Knight for now---meaning we will leave the light on for him but he will actually have to come knock on the door if he wants to return.


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[hoosierbannerd]

11 minutes ago, rebelhoosier848891 said:

 

I know I shouldn't care at this point what Knight thinks --but part of me still does. Knight was the Coach I grew up with and while I did not agree with everything he did or said ---I would have ran through a brick wall for him as a student. Glad he approves of Archie and I still hold out a faint hope of an IU/Knight reunion someday. Maybe Archie can get that done. As I posted on here a few years back--we'll Motel 6 Knight for now---meaning we will leave the light on for him but he will actually have to come knock on the door if he wants to return.


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I share your exact sentiment rebel. I wasn't around for '40 and '53, so any older posters on here correct me; but to me; RMK established IU as a top 5 blue blood forever. If you look at RMK strictly as a basketball coach and what he brought to the game; he is one of the greatest ever to coach at any level.  So to me, if he is endorsing Archie; I think that speaks volumes to Miller's ability. 

Tough, hard-nosed defense; on 1/2 court O sets- screening/ cutting/ working for good shots, running and looking for easy buckets BASED on your D pressure.. sounds like Archie/ IU hoops to me..

 

[Uspshoosier]

http://www.insidethehall.com/2017/03/31/study-iu-basketball-nations-third-valuable-program/

Not a bad couple of days for coach Miller. Now he is the coach of the 3rd most valuable program.

 

 

 

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[SteelerHoosier]

What's this noise I hear about RMK calling Donoher to ask about Coach Arch? 

[hoosierbannerd]

6 minutes ago, SteelerHoosier said:

What's this noise I hear about RMK calling Donoher to ask about Coach Arch? 

RMK gave a talk last night in B-town and stated he called Donoher about Miller; Donoher gave him an endorsement and RMK told the crowd to "get behind him that we would enjoy his type of basketball."

[southsidehoosier]

What's this noise I hear about RMK calling Donoher to ask about Coach Arch? 

I read that too somewhere


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[SteelerHoosier]

3 minutes ago, hoosierbannerd said:

RMK gave a talk last night in B-town and stated he called Donoher about Miller; Donoher gave him an endorsement and RMK told the crowd to "get behind him that we would enjoy his type of basketball."

Good deal. 

[Baltimore Hoosier]

On 3/29/2017 at 2:26 PM, Scooter D said:

To be honest, what it comes down to, is that knowing that Donovan was interested 2 years ago in combination with FG's press conference and his list of things that he wanted in the next coach really led me to believe that we were going to get Donovan.  Perhaps my expectations were too high.  

I have nothing against AM, other than I am a little concerned about his age and the fact that while he was successful at Dayton, he does not have experience as a HC in a major conference, so it is tough to know how he will do on the big stage of the Big 10.  Now, I know that the response that I get back will be "...but we hired Knight when he was young and a relative unknown."  Yes, I get it, but I think the days of having a coach at one place for 20+years is past and we want results sooner rather than later.  I am not talking instant gratification here, but by year three, IU needs to be completing for a Final Four.

From all of the press conferences and interviews that I have listened to, he is saying all of the right things.  Love the fact that he is the son of a coach, he played college ball and has a certain "blue-collar" attitude/work ethic.  Sounds like he will mold these young men into upstanding representatives of the university of which we, as alumni and fans, can be proud of.  Love the fact that he is defense oriented, but still wants to run, when it is there and that he wants to own the state.  I was not looking for the hire to be "an IU guy" but by all accounts AM fills that.  That is my nutshell.  

To put it in perspective, when Florida hired Billy Donovan in 1996, his only head coaching experience was at Marshall for two years, where he didn't make the tournment. He was 31 years old... Rick Pitino was 37 when he took the Kentucky job and he only had mediocre success with smaller programs and as an assistant with the Knicks before that. Similarly, Bob Knight coached Army for 6 seasons where he won some games, but didn't have any kind of major success.. He was hired by Indiana at the age of 31, and we know how that played out.

Archie has accomplished more at a "mid-major-ish" program in 6 seasons, than alot of other extremely successful head coaches did before they were hired for their first major gig. 

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

36 minutes ago, hoosierbannerd said:

RMK gave a talk last night in B-town and stated he called Donoher about Miller; Donoher gave him an endorsement and RMK told the crowd to "get behind him that we would enjoy his type of basketball."

I'll admit I was pretty amazed to read the accounts of RMK's talk.  Very complimentary about CAM being our new coach and he even wore a red sweater.  However, I did see that the program for the event only listed his tenure at Texas Tech.  Truly an enigma.

[LamarCheeks]

25 minutes ago, Baltimore Hoosier said:

Rick Pitino was 37 when he took the Kentucky job and he only had mediocre success with smaller programs and as an assistant with the Knicks before that.

Pitino took Providence to a Final Four, then went to the NBA -- where he was the Knicks' HEAD COACH -- before going to Kentucky. 

[HoosierTrav]

Looks like we have our Shot Doctor


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He mentioned in one of his interviews how he would find out who was really good shooters by who could beat him in shooting drills during practice. Love that.

[Baltimore Hoosier]

2 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

Pitino took Providence to a Final Four, then went to the NBA -- where he was the Knicks' HEAD COACH -- before going to Kentucky. 

You're right. He was an assistant in New York BEFORE coaching Providence. Does that change the point I'm making though? These guys were all relative unknowns when they took over their respective programs and had major success. 

[SteelerHoosier]

53 minutes ago, Baltimore Hoosier said:

You're right. He was an assistant in New York BEFORE coaching Providence. Does that change the point I'm making though? These guys were all relative unknowns when they took over their respective programs and had major success. 

I get what you are trying to say, but Pitino is not a good example of it in my opinion. He took over a Providence program that had not won more than 15 games in the 7 seasons before he arrived AFTER winning two conference titles in 4 seasons at literal Boston University (Another program that won more than 15 games in a season once in the 15 years before he got there!). Then he made a FF run in year two at Providence. Then he parlayed that  job into a NBA head job with included him winning a division title the year before he took the UK job. He was much more accomplished when taking his first big college job than others on your list. 

[Capt. Crimson]

BREAKING: Billy Donovan has sold his Bloomington farm. 

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

As a Cards fan I had a bad feeling that day. Hopefully the fact the Pukes fans that recognize the hire as great are correct. 

So did I. Happy for my mom,but not for Cardinal fans like me.

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[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

I get what you are trying to say, but Pitino is not a good example of it in my opinion. He took over a Providence program that had not won more than 15 games in the 7 seasons before he arrived AFTER winning two conference titles in 4 seasons at literal Boston University (Another program that won more than 15 games in a season once in the 15 years before he got there!). Then he made a FF run in year two at Providence. Then he parlayed that  job into a NBA head job with included him winning a division title the year before he took the UK job. He was much more accomplished when taking his first big college job than others on your list. 

And Archie took over a Dayton program that had been to 4 NCAA Tournaments in 21 yrs.he led them to 4 straight Appearances in his 6 yrs reign with an E8 appearance.

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[SteelerHoosier]

32 minutes ago, iufaninillinois said:

And Archie took over a Dayton program that had been to 4 NCAA Tournaments in 21 yrs.he led them to 4 straight Appearances in his 6 yrs reign with an E8 appearance.

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And? He's still not as established as Pitino. That's all my comment was saying.  I'm not putting Coach down in any way. Just saying the comparisons to Ricky P getting hired at UK aren't accurate.  

[Miller'sTheMan]

18 minutes ago, SteelerHoosier said:

And? He's still not as established as Pitino. That's all my comment was saying.  I'm not putting Coach down in any way. Just saying the comparisons to Ricky P getting hired at UK aren't accurate.  

I'm saying their resume's are actually pretty close, except Pitino won one more game one year.

Yeah Pitino had success in the NBA, but the NBA is a completely different game than college so I don't know if success in the NBA would translate to college, or help "prove" yourself as a coach in the college game.

[LamarCheeks]

Was watching the Thunder-Spurs game when they did a between-quarters interview with Billy Donovan. After he finished, I played the tape backwards and in a hidden message, he said: "I really wanted to coach Indiana, but my wife decided she didn't want to move to Bloomington. She's the boss." 

[Hoosier Guy]

Yeah it's gonna be nice to have a respected guy on the sideline. Not only respected but feared


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