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FWIW Juwan, Devonte, De’Ron and Vijay all signed a lease together for an apartment for next year. So it doesn’t look like any of them have plans on leaving. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

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5 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:


Gonzaga generally has a big guy or 2 or
3 that can defend, rebound, and sometimes shoot it.



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That wasn't really the discussion though. Gonzaga didn't have some "true center" to defend Wesson because they didn't need to because he can't beat you. 

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I think you're misunderstanding what I want in a grad transfer "big." I don't want a slow, huge 5 that plays with his back to the basket, similar to Davis.

I want a 5 that can defend the bigs like Harms, Happ, Watkins, Wesson, Ward, Bruno, etc. That 5 should also be mobile enough to guard PNR, PNP, or switching to a smaller player. On offense he should be able to step out and knockdown open shots to give Morgan and Smith to operate down low on smaller defenders.

Morgan can't and shouldn't be defending those bigs. If he has to he'll wear down over the course of the season again. Thompson can provide some help but he's more of a 4, same with Smith. Moore and Forrester have the potential to be that type of player; however, they're not big or experienced enough yet. Therefor, I'd like to see a grad transfer 5 that can do those things.


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35 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

I think you're misunderstanding what I want in a grad transfer "big." I don't want a slow, huge 5 that plays with his back to the basket, similar to Davis.

I want a 5 that can defend the bigs like Harms, Happ, Watkins, Wesson, Ward, Bruno, etc. That 5 should also be mobile enough to guard PNR, PNP, or switching to a smaller player. On offense he should be able to step out and knockdown open shots to give Morgan and Smith to operate down low on smaller defenders.

Morgan can't and shouldn't be defending those bigs. If he has to he'll wear down over the course of the season again. Thompson can provide some help but he's more of a 4, same with Smith. Moore and Forrester have the potential to be that type of player; however, they're not big or experienced enough yet. Therefor, I'd like to see a grad transfer 5 that can do those things.


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But again.. a guard is much more of a need. Moore is 6'10 and Forrester is 6'9 both are plenty tall. If Moore transfers I hope we get a grad transfer.. if not, our player development needs to be good enough that Moore can give us 6-8mins enough and Thompson 12mins. That's all we really need to have against the "big" teams. 

also... exactly how many big guys do you think are on the market that fit your criteria?

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https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/ryan-welage-1.html
I know I’m scouting the stat line here, but I’m profiling him as a marginally athletic  spot up shooter who can’t defend a lick. Makes 3’s and free throws. Maybe that’s worth it alone. But how can a 6’9” kid playing 35 min/gm in a midmajor conference finish a 30 game season with 18 steals and 6 blocks?  Oh, and 4-26, 1-17 in conference.
Count me on the fence.

Name slips my mind, but the kid that transferred from pUKe to Gonzaga a few yrs ago faired pretty well. He couldn't sniff the floor in Lexington.

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31 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:


He had 26 rebounds against us in 2 games... he sure helped beat us


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Well we played him twice without Davis, once on one day rest, and one game we took them to double OT. We competed with them.. obviously our team was incomplete this year. 

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Any of you that wants a grad transfer big... did any of you witness any of our guard play all year long!?!? 

Romeo fixes a lot of those issues; shooting, getting to the rim, and making big shots. I believe we see a more consistent Green (crazy I know). Phinisee will get plenty of run if he can lead and not turn it over. Durham can be a help on the defensive end of the court. Hunter and Anderson will provide a few minutes along with McBob.

What did Moore show this season that will help us next season? Forester will be an undersized frosh.

I want a big versatile team. We're missing the player I described. Davis will help in spots but isn't the answer. Thompson can definitely help but not at the 5 against good teams.


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9 hours ago, HoosierAloha said:


Romeo fixes a lot of those issues; shooting, getting to the rim, and making big shots. I believe we see a more consistent Green (crazy I know). Phinisee will get plenty of run if he can lead and not turn it over. Durham can be a help on the defensive end of the court. Hunter and Anderson will provide a few minutes along with McBob.

What did Moore show this season that will help us next season? Forester will be an undersized frosh.

I want a big versatile team. We're missing the player I described. Davis will help in spots but isn't the answer. Thompson can definitely help but not at the 5 against good teams.


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Anderson is not playing meaningful mins next year. He simply isn't ready. 

If Thompson can't play the 5 against good teams, we're in trouble. 

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5 hours ago, btownqb said:

Anderson is not playing meaningful mins next year. He simply isn't ready. 

If Thompson can't play the 5 against good teams, we're in trouble. 

Isn't Thompson 6'7"? Doubtful he's playing the 5 against good teams.

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Idc if he is 6'7 or 6'8... why is a good team defined by their height?? Nova plays small ball, so does UVA. Tennessee won this year playing small. Kansas is small. Xavier isn't big. 

It's a myth you have to have height to succeed. 

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3 minutes ago, mdn82 said:


Yes they are screwed. That length from Texas A & M is getting to them man. Down 20. They are done. Bad game to try and prove a point.


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I posted this at tip off... I don't try and use hindsight to prove a point....

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I posted this at tip off... I don't try and use hindsight to prove a point....

I get that but it wasn’t a good matchup for them from the get go. They are a top 20 defensive team. Top 10 in blocks. They are big and they don’t turn the ball over. They are big, athletic, and skilled. Not a plodding team. Bad matchup for small ball. If we had 6’9” or 6’10” and athletic I would be ecstatic. We have so many holes that any improvement will be huge.


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