Player and Recruit Retention News/Discussion & Potential Transfers

[ebridges24]

The Luke Fischer incident that got Luke to transfer is the main one. Drug test failures with Troy. But bringing people into your room with Luke, lock him out, and steal his autograph ball that he was going to give to a family member while smoking weed... yeah. It's in the past.
 
 
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That's terrible. I don't blame Luke for leaving. That makes me lose a lot of respect for Troy. I kinda hope he doesn't do crap in the NBA now.

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[mdn82]

That's terrible. I don't blame Luke for leaving. That makes me lose a lot of respect for Troy. I kinda hope he doesn't do crap in the NBA now.

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I think they all grew, but not due to Crean from that stuff. He did nothing but back his favorites or back kids out of fear for pissing off the wrong person. When you are 18, and Bloomington is yours without repercussion, I can't completely blame the kid. Troy was known to have a good time even after declaring. Let's hope he grew up. He has a god given gift.


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[Yogi's Picnic Basket]

Honestly Troy smoking probably was the only reason he did it. It wasn't like he did it just to do it. It is a crappy situation, but hazing does happen all over and if not for the ball it sounds like Luke just needed to try to change roommates. Right after is when Troy failed his drug test I believe so I don't doubt that incident led to it. He was young. If wishing his NBA career to go down the drain over decisions as an 18 year old I would hate to see what you think of 85% of kids that age then. No offense man. Bad situation, but easily could have been fixed.

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[Hovadipo]

I think they all grew, but not due to Crean from that stuff. He did nothing but back his favorites or back kids out of fear for pissing off the wrong person. When you are 18, and Bloomington is yours without repercussion, I can't completely blame the kid. Troy was known to have a good time even after declaring. Let's hope he grew up. He has a god given gift.


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Troy was known for having a good time the night before games/travel days.

[Yogi's Picnic Basket]

It does seem like Crean lost that team. The suspensions helped, but a culture was set and until Yogi grew up sadly no one did on our team besides Sheehey at any of that time.

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[HinnyHoosier]

Wow. Didn't know some of these stories. It's telling of the Crean era. Not that any of those kids' choices were his fault, but some situations obviously could have been handled better. Seemingly, it was the lack of consequences that failed to command respect for FCTC among many of those boys which bred a crappy culture among the program. This is probably a superficial observation since I'm working and cant really read through all of the details shared here, but wow.

[ebridges24]

Honestly Troy smoking probably was the only reason he did it. It wasn't like he did it just to do it. It is a crappy situation, but hazing does happen all over and if not for the ball it sounds like Luke just needed to try to change roommates. Right after is when Troy failed his drug test I believe so I don't doubt that incident led to it. He was young. If wishing his NBA career to go down the drain over decisions as an 18 year old I would hate to see what you think of 85% of kids that age then. No offense man. Bad situation, but easily could have been fixed.

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None taken. Maybe I'm naive, but I just find it to be a really awful thing to do another person, let alone a teammate. Maybe I should say I won't be excited for Troy when something good happens for him the way I was before.

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[recker222000]

None taken. Maybe I'm naive, but I just find it to be a really awful thing to do another person, let alone a teammate. Maybe I should say I won't be excited for Troy when something good happens for him the way I was before.

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When you have a coach who won't hold you accountable you will do crazy things. When the players finally got kicked off that was freds call. Not crean.

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[Chris007]

17 hours ago, mdn82 said:

They were smoking weed and held the door shut when he was trying to get in.


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Also note that Luke went to Crean & told him about it. Crean told him he needed to just suck it up & get over it.

[Tom White]

6 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Crean told him he needed to just suck it up...........

Crean wanted him to inhale?  :)

[mdn82]

Also note that Luke went to Crean & told him about it. Crean told him he needed to just suck it up & get over it.

Yep. He went home right after this. Decision made. I hate going into this after the fact 3.5 years later. Not trying to bash Crean after the fact, but this was his most mishandled situation believe it or not many times over.


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[Hoosier Guy]

Completely agree mdn82. That was the worst one. That's just inexcusable to say the least. I don't blame Luke one bit for leaving. The homesick story was yet another facade put on by Crean and his staff

[recker222000]

Completely agree mdn82. That was the worst one. That's just inexcusable to say the least. I don't blame Luke one bit for leaving. The homesick story was yet another facade put on by Crean and his staff

Another crean excuse!

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[HoosierAloha]

Completely agree mdn82. That was the worst one. That's just inexcusable to say the least. I don't blame Luke one bit for leaving. The homesick story was yet another facade put on by Crean and his staff

I wonder if he hired a PR firm to put this out...?

This falls in line of Crean playing favorites, "not promising things for recruits", and not being a leader of young men.

[Hoosier Guy]

2 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

I wonder if he hired a PR firm to put this out...?

This falls in line of Crean playing favorites, "not promising things for recruits", and not being a leader of young men.

It's no wonder why recruiting started to fall down the drain. Recruits finally started to realize this crap

[mdn82]

Completely agree mdn82. That was the worst one. That's just inexcusable to say the least. I don't blame Luke one bit for leaving. The homesick story was yet another facade put on by Crean and his staff

He was really homesick but that was kind of the final straw. That is why he left during Christmas break.

 

 

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[Hoosier Guy]

15 minutes ago, mdn82 said:

He was really homesick but that was kind of the final straw. That is why he left during Christmas break.

 

 

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He was homesick but that obviously wasn't the reason he left

[mdn82]

He was homesick but that obviously wasn't the reason he left

You are correct. That was not the only reason he left. Other things contributed to him wanting to be closer to home.


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[Hoosier Guy]

14 minutes ago, mdn82 said:

You are correct. That was not the only reason he left. Other things contributed to him wanting to be closer to home.


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Like Troy and his buddies smoking weed in the apartment and locking out Luke. And then stealing an autographed basketball. That's just pathetic

[Hoosier DaDa]

10 minutes ago, Hoosier Guy said:

Like Troy and his buddies smoking weed in the apartment and locking out Luke. And then stealing an autographed basketball. That's just pathetic

Isn't that what everyone does to their roommate their freshman year of college?