Player and Recruit Retention News/Discussion & Potential Transfers

[BGleas 7,880]

25 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

Not to nitpick, but these two concepts are pretty much the same thing.

 

No they're not. They might quite often result in the same outcome, but they're not the same thing. One is basically telling a kid that he doesn't have a spot, the other is telling him he's not going to play much and he'll need to be comfortable with that if he wants to stay. 

Back in my college days I had teammates who were given the brutally honest conversation and still chose to stay. 

[Stuhoo 76,335]

6 minutes ago, BGleas said:

No they're not. They might quite often result in the same outcome, but they're not the same thing. One is basically telling a kid that he doesn't have a spot, the other is telling him he's not going to play much and he'll need to be comfortable with that if he wants to stay. 

Back in my college days I had teammates who were given the brutally honest conversation and still chose to stay. 

 

Can I cry "Uncle!"? 

It is almost always the same result, but I guess as Tim Priller can attest, it is not the same thing!

 

[Hoosierfan2017 20,002]

I'm just glad we get to hear a senior speech from Priller. 

I hope Archie can bring in a guy like Carter and maybe redshirt him to help balance our classes, unless there's a grad transfer big that can make an impact.  

[HoosierX 1,460]

Is Tremont Waters in play at all?

[MoyeNeeded 3,073]

 
Couldn't have said it any better. He'll be playing NAIA basketball this October. 

I'd like to see him down at Bellarmine in Louisville!

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[Stromboli 6,055]

14 minutes ago, HoosierX said:

Is Tremont Waters in play at all?

I thought about this, too. I'm guessing that would mean we'd be out of the running for Garland. Also Waters is getting a reputation as a tough case based on his dad's demands/involvement. I will say I was very high on Tremont 6 months ago.

[bhaggard89 869]

Think I would prefer the grad transfer big route


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[HoosierAloha 29,984]

With an open scholly we have options.

Grad transfer (big would be helpful)
Unsigned recruit (Carter, Waters would be great but a pipe dream)
Give a walk on the scholly for a year
Bank it

[Hoosierfan2017 20,002]

8 minutes ago, bhaggard89 said:

Think I would prefer the grad transfer big route


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It's too bad Max Bielfeldt doesn't have any eligibility left. That guy has set my grad transfer expectations sky high. 

[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

With an open scholly we have options.

Grad transfer (big would be helpful)
Unsigned recruit (Carter, Waters would be great but a pipe dream)
Give a walk on the scholly for a year
Bank it

I don't think we can give a one year scholarship now because of the Student Bill of Rights. If we gave McBob a scholarship, wouldn't he then be entitled to one for his remaining years of eligibility? Not sure how that works now.


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[bigrod 2,815]

3 minutes ago, Walking Boot of Doom said:

I don't think we can give a one year scholarship now because of the Student Bill of Rights. If we gave McBob a scholarship, wouldn't he then be entitled to one for his remaining years of eligibility? Not sure how that works now.


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This is exactly what I was wondering about.

...seems like the Walking Boot of Doom has been making his way to the Colts facility too!

[Alford Bailey 12,280]

Glad the Gelon thing got worked out. More proof to me that Archie knows what he is doing and Crean didnt have a clue.

[HoosierAloha 29,984]

I don't think we can give a one year scholarship now because of the Student Bill of Rights. If we gave McBob a scholarship, wouldn't he then be entitled to one for his remaining years of eligibility? Not sure how that works now.


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The student bill of rights is an IU thing. If they wanted to work around it I'm sure they could. How many years does McBob have left?

[Brass Cannon 24,069]

Even if we give him the scholarship we will still have 5 next year. 

[Hoosiers96 912]

@ChronicHoosier
In his 9 years at #iubb, Crean awarded 41 freshmen scholarships, 18 (41.9%) subsequently transferred or were dismissed.

[HoosierAloha 29,984]

@ChronicHoosier

In his 9 years at #iubb, Crean awarded 41 freshmen scholarships, 18 (41.9%) subsequently transferred or were dismissed.

I would like to see the breakdown of 4 year graduates and kids leaving early for the NBA. Not sure if my calculations are exact.

 

Zeller, Oladipo, Vonleh, Blackmon Jr., OG and Bryant are the kids leaving early for the NBA. 7 left early (17%) leaving just ~41% that stayed at IU for 4 years and graduated.

[Tom White 1,435]

2 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

I would like to see the breakdown of 4 year graduates and kids leaving early for the NBA. Not sure if my calculations are exact.

Zeller, Oladipo, Vonleh, Blackmon Jr., and Bryant are the kids leaving early for the NBA. 6 left early (12.1%) leaving just 46% that stayed at IU for 4 years and graduated.

You forgot OG.

[HoosierAloha 29,984]

You forgot OG.

I knew I was forgetting someone. Thanks

[bhaggard89 869]

I'm excited about this Gelon news for a few reasons:
-Gelon can go and actually play somewhere
-It frees up a scholarship that was essentially being used on a walk-on quality player
-Our first glimpse at how CAM will approach these "extra" scholarships. We will be able to see if he will get offer happy like Crean used to do. I'm hoping CAM does his due diligence and doesn't force an offer because there's an opening.


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[WayneFleekHoosier 47,061]

I think they already had someone in mind.

Next year still able to be a five man class.

I'll be shocked if we Don't add someone.

Excited about our prospects.


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