Player and Recruit Retention News/Discussion & Potential Transfers

[Josh 12,604]

Regardless of what round he got to that was still a very impressive thing to do with a limited roster.


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Sure it is. I just don't think it's indicative of future success.

[mdn82 25,510]

Uh oh, there goes that brag. I'm not trying to gloat here, I'm just worried we hired Crean 2.0. Maybe this is the wrong thread. I'm hopeful.

There is not one similarity between the two other than being coach at IU. Look we didn't hire Gregg Marshall. I know that bums you out. Not sure why but it has. Why not give the guy a chance at this point? We tried getting you to watch his games in January. The one half where you brought up you knew he wasn't the man they came back to win on the road against the 2nd best team in the A-10. I don't know man. Just seems like sour grapes due to it not being Marshall at this point and hoping he fails so you can tell everyone you told them so.


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[Josh 12,604]

2 minutes ago, mdn82 said:

There is not one similarity between the two other than being coach at IU. Look we didn't hire Gregg Marshall. I know that bums you out. Not sure why but it has. Why not give the guy a chance at this point? We tried getting you to watch his games in January. The one half where you brought up you knew he wasn't the man they came back to win on the road against the 2nd best team in the A-10. I don't know man. Just seems like sour grapes due to it not being Marshall at this point and hoping he fails so you can tell everyone you told them so.


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Not at all what's going on here.  I'm not hoping he fails.  Never have I ever said anything close.

 

I'm just not optimistic based upon what I've seen.  As far as comparisons to Crean, I'm not bringing them up, I'm just responding to them.  And I've said there's no comparison same as you.

 

All I'm saying here is that there's no promise of future success based upon one season.  Read it again, you'll see it's true.

[Uspshoosier 45,345]

Sure it is. I just don't think it's indicative of future success.

Of course not at the end of the day whoever would of gotten the IU job would have to do the same thing as CAM will have to do in the future.......win. But for me he has started out his time at IU the right way and for the current players to stay on board is a great start

 

 

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[mdn82 25,510]

Not at all what's going on here.  I'm not hoping he fails.  Never have I ever said anything close.
 
I'm just not optimistic based upon what I've seen.  As far as comparisons to Crean, I'm not bringing them up, I'm just responding to them.  And I've said there's no comparison same as you.
 
All I'm saying here is that there's no promise of future success based upon one season.  Read it again, you'll see it's true.

Nothing would have been guaranteed no matter who the coach is. At this point I am in agreement with his recruiting philosophy and like how the players have responded to him in the media. I don't know. At this point I am very happy with the start of this. All he has to do is win.


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[BtownBanner6 1,298]

Wade was a 3 star mostly due to him having terrible grades so he wasn't recruited as highly. However that team had some nice upperclassmen with some bonafide NBA talent in Wade and Novak. They also won their conference so unheralded is probably not the right word.

[Dalton26 16,892]

Wade was a 3 star mostly due to him having terrible grades so he wasn't recruited as highly. However that team had some nice upperclassmen with some bonafide NBA talent in Wade and Novak. They also won their conference so unheralded is probably not the right word.

They had Travis Diener who spent 5 seasons in the NBA too.

[Brass Cannon 24,301]

And who cares that Wade was a 3 star by the year they went to a FF Wade was clearly on the NBAs radar. 

[recker222000 1,010]

I only care about rojo

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[LamarCheeks 18,314]

The last thing heard from RoJo was the non-denial denial of all the reports, right? Wonder if he's ever planning to actually say that he's coming back?

[VO5 8,272]

2 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

The last thing heard from RoJo was the non-denial denial of all the reports, right? Wonder if he's ever planning to actually say that he's coming back?

He has less than a week to decide. We'll know very shortly

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan 6,198]

Not at all what's going on here.  I'm not hoping he fails.  Never have I ever said anything close.

 

I'm just not optimistic based upon what I've seen.  As far as comparisons to Crean, I'm not bringing them up, I'm just responding to them.  And I've said there's no comparison same as you.

 

All I'm saying here is that there's no promise of future success based upon one season.  Read it again, you'll see it's true.

I saw a stat when he was hired that clinched it for me.

Dayton had been to the NCAA Tournament 4 times in 30 yrs. Archie led them to 4 in his short tenure. To me that shows he can coach. If I'm wrong feel free to correct me. I posted that States off memory.

 

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[Chris007 43,622]

I think we will have another roster spot opening up soon. Not a big deal but will hopefully hear something soon. 

[WayneFleekHoosier 48,081]

I think we will have another roster spot opening up soon. Not a big deal but will hopefully hear something soon. 

Sounds like a big deal regardless of impact.

The bigger question...are we going to fill it? (With Priller, Gelon, McSwain) we need all the legit B1G bodies we can get.

Thanks for sharing.


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[tyappleg 2,974]

Help me out then.  I guess all I know was that Wade was an unheralded 3 star.  What was the true history then?

While the Marquette team wasn't a world beater by any means, it did have 3 NBA players in Wade, Diener, and Novak.


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[Chris007 43,622]

1 minute ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Sounds like a big deal regardless of impact.

The bigger question...are we going to fill it? (With Priller, Gelon, McSwain) we need all the legit B1G bodies we can get.

Thanks for sharing.


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One of those three might the guy that is leaving.

[Stuhoo 79,876]

 

One of those three is far, far less valuable while being much more of a future investment than the others.

 

 

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19 hours ago, Josh said:

Uh oh, there goes that brag. I'm not trying to gloat here, I'm just worried we hired Crean 2.0. Maybe this is the wrong thread. I'm hopeful.
 

I would say to dig a little deeper. Yes, you can make the elite-8/final four comparison to Crean, but there's not a lot of context or substance behind that. 

Look at how he carries himself. Listen to what he says, the way he talks about basketball, his philosophy, etc. The way he talks about and to players. How he talks about X's/O"s.

Look at where he comes from. He's from a basketball family, his dad is a legendary coach in PA, his brother was a successful player and now coach. Archie himself was a successful player and now coach. He grew up in the gym, he's spent almost all of his life in the gym playing and around coaches. 

I have no idea what the future holds or how he'll ultimately do, but given how he played, how he's coached to this point, what he says and how he relates to basketball people and his philosophies, etc., I understand being cautiously optimistic, but I don't see many reasons to be as skeptical as you are, and I really don't see a comparison to Crean. 

Again, I don't what's going to happen. Is he our Bill Self, or is he just going to maintain Crean's highs but minimize the Crean dips? I don't know, but I can say that to this point I'm really encouraged. 

[LamarCheeks 18,314]

58 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I think we will have another roster spot opening up soon. Not a big deal but will hopefully hear something soon. 

Was there a tweet or report something that I'm missing? I thought with RoJo coming back, we were right where we needed to be -- at 13 schollys. 

[mdn82 25,510]

Was there a tweet or report something that I'm missing? I thought with RoJo coming back, we were right where we needed to be -- at 13 schollys. 

Probably Gelon - guess

 

 

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