Player and Recruit Retention News/Discussion & Potential Transfers

[WayneFleekHoosier 47,920]

Max Hoetzel.

The Grant Gelon recruitment was embarrassing in timing and management.

Clearly April and Priller fit the descriptions as well.


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[HoosierHoops1 5,024]

I'm not sure how much time was actually put into Will  or Stan either...

[Hoosierfan2017 20,822]

24 minutes ago, HoosierHoops1 said:

Oh yeah. That's right. The kid with the "flame thrower".

His name is Max Hoetzel and that's all you need to know. 

[HoosierHoops1 5,024]

3 hours ago, HoosierHoops1 said:

I'm not sure how much time was actually put into Will  or Stan either...

or Bawa Muniru

 

No that we type it out, sure seems like a definite pattern

[schoosier 3,451]

Guy Marc Michelle took a scholarship and was never cleared. Recruiting was more a bust under Crean. Just look at the 2012 movement.

[TheWatShot 13,622]

Some of these names...good lord. How did Crean even find those kids? I mean, we always wondered where he came up with some of the teams to fill out our nonconference schedule, but any coach with an internet connection and the attention span of a 10 year old can go online and seek out teams that have been terrible the last few years running. It's almost like that's what he did in recruiting...but in recruiting you want what's at the other end of the spectrum. Maybe he just had it backwards. Or maybe he thought it was schedule bad teams and recruit bad players so it's less noticeable how bad they are. Or maybe...whoops, just spilled Diet Coke all over my flash cards.

[Hoosierfan2017 20,822]

Words can't explain how happy I am that all these comments about Crean are in the past tense instead of the present. 

[WayneFleekHoosier 47,920]

Crean's recruiting drove me insane as a fan of recruiting. Some of the things he did seemed so out of the ordinary.

It was more maddening that he would land a Zeller, Vonleh, Blackmon and the occasional diamonds like OG, Will, and Vic.

It gave you hope but then the overall results were always a couple players short. His misses and offers extended were extraordinary.

His recruiting seemed to be dipping even more the past few years.

As we are seeing with the 2018 kids, he didn't appear to be in good standing with many of those either.


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[TheWatShot 13,622]

2 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Words can't explain how happy I am that all these comments about Crean are in the past tense instead of the present. 

About a year or two ago, I said that someday, we'd have a perfectly normal coach doing perfectly  normal things, but after X years of Crean, we'd think he was a savant and we'd eat it up. Well, after all these years of Crean offering a few dozen more scholarships than he had to kids not on anyone else's radar, we witness Archie bring a kid in for workouts, but send him away because he's not good enough for this level. Business as usual at a traditionally successful program, right? Yet we be like "OMG! WE DIDN'T OFFER A PLAYER WHO VISITED!! WHAT IS THIS?!!"

[bleedhoosier 3,627]

Lol, love Archie not offering.. like we said "he's all business"

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[Hoosierfan2017 20,822]

Coach Allen's not gonna let Freddie leave the football field. Sheesh. 

 

[recker222000 1,010]

This actually came close to happening a few times. McCleod vouched for Williams and williams committed without Crean ever evaluating him in person and then the kid that transferred to San Diego st got an offer and committed after Crean recruiting him for a week and Crean only attending 1 practice 
 
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Kind of like with april and priller.

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[Crimson and Cream 5,776]

13 hours ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Coach Allen's not gonna let Freddie leave the football field. Sheesh. 

 

If at any point in my life I can be that ripped, I will die a happy man

[HoosierHoops1 5,024]

11 hours ago, Crimson and Cream said:

If at any point in my life I can be that ripped, I will die a happy man

These days, a decade after hitting 40, I wouldn't mind a body like Priller...

[Brass Cannon 24,222]

11 hours ago, Crimson and Cream said:

If at any point in my life I can be that ripped, I will die a happy man

I wasn't that ripped but I was pretty ripped at 18. God I miss that. 

Marriage has destroyed what little bit was left. 

[HoosierCoop 3,885]

1 hour ago, Brass Cannon said:

I wasn't that ripped but I was pretty ripped at 18. God I miss that. 

Marriage has destroyed what little bit was left. 

I can feel ya' Brass.

Kids took the gym time away.

Beer and food intake increased.

Problem is, at 45, it's hard to get anything back now.

[hoosierbannerd 1,519]

I can feel ya' Brass.
Kids took the gym time away.
Beer and food intake increased.
Problem is, at 45, it's hard to get anything back now.

I take my 8 yr old with me..she swims or hangs out in the day care while I lift.. I balance swimming or other activities with her too though. My booze consumption has dropped over the last few years. Usually my coaching is what kills my lifting time 2x a year. I'm pushing 47 and can't hit what I did 10 yrs ago but not bad for an "old dad".

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[recker222000 1,010]

What's going on with recruiting? Seems really quiet.

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[goonaha 2,972]

10 minutes ago, recker222000 said:

What's going on with recruiting? Seems really quiet.

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https://btownbanners.com/forum/21-indiana-basketball-recruiting-forum/

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