Player and Recruit Retention News/Discussion & Potential Transfers

[mdn82 25,510]

Blackmon wasn't forced by the coach to play defense. I don't think that will be the same this season. Miller will make him play defense or he won't play. It's that simple. Miller doesn't owe him PT like Crean did. I think that is what some are trying to say and if he buys in to playing defense, has a great offensive year and IU does well, he will absolutely have a shot at getting drafted in first round. Probably late first round boarderline 2nd round but he will absolutely have a shot.


Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

That is perfectly fair if he weren't an undersized 2. Or had multiple knee injuries. Forget the defense aspect and the other two are more reasons than the defense as to why that will never happen. You add in that he will be 22 and a bad defender? There is no reason for a team to draft him in the first. He is a shooter. A damn good one that may one day find himself on a NBA roster. I implore you guys to watch this draft and see what type of player goes in the first round.


Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

[Redleader 165]

Blackmon wasn't forced by the coach to play defense. I don't think that will be the same this season. Miller will make him play defense or he won't play. It's that simple. Miller doesn't owe him PT like Crean did. I think that is what some are trying to say and if he buys in to playing defense, has a great offensive year and IU does well, he will absolutely have a shot at getting drafted in first round. Probably late first round boarderline 2nd round but he will absolutely have a shot.


Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

He has no lateral quickness. Knees probably have a lot to do with that. Offensively, everything is a jumper or straight line drive. Defense is mostly desire, but he can't stay with anyone on the perimeter, and some of that he can't overcome. Pack line D has the potential to help with some of this. His awareness off the ball is terrible, but maybe learning a system that isn't predicated on deflections, and stresses clogging driving lanes can help here too.

Sent from my Nexus 6P using BtownBanners mobile app

[IUfan_Charlie 3,867]

4 hours ago, KingPG21 said:

Yeah...... senior, undersized two guard with no point guard skills whatsoever, 3 years of evidence he can't even play adequate defense at the college level, not even the best at creating his own shot when he is being focused in on. I don't think anyone could make an argument for him being a first round pick

 

Edit: I like JBJ, but people need to be realistic on expectations for him at the next level

I think he can play in the NBA, but at best I think he's a 9th/10th man. 

[IUfan_Charlie 3,867]

2 hours ago, mdn82 said:

That is perfectly fair if he weren't an undersized 2. Or had multiple knee injuries. Forget the defense aspect and the other two are more reasons than the defense as to why that will never happen. You add in that he will be 22 and a bad defender? There is no reason for a team to draft him in the first. He is a shooter. A damn good one that may one day find himself on a NBA roster. I implore you guys to watch this draft and see what type of player goes in the first round.


Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Like 80% of them will be 20 years old or younger. 

[Dalton26 16,892]

I think he can play in the NBA, but at best I think he's a 9th/10th man. 

I could see him being similar to a James Jones type. He won't get many minutes but when he does he'll knock down some threes.

[Cletus20 56]

I could see him being similar to a James Jones type. He won't get many minutes but when he does he'll knock down some threes.

Yeah I think this whole topic on JBJ is nuts. Not sure if there is a better pure shooter currently in the class. The NBA is about matchups and who fits in the systems being run. JBJ could get 4-8 wide open uncontested attempts in the league each night......yeah I'd pick him every day of the week. Defense? Nobody improved more on the IU team than Jimmy Buckets! Hope this kid comes back, leads this group to the next level and cashes in on another year to get healthy!

[bigrod 2,848]

Any player who is an awesome shooter or scorer but doesn't care enough about his team to at least make an effort to play defense, is hurting the team. If watching the games and it's affect on the team and other players isn't enough evidence, our record over the last two years surely is.


Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app

[rcbowla 7,035]

What is the deal with Matur Maker? Everything about his (and Thon's for that matter) recruitment seems odd.  Both of them seem to have been pains in the ***** to recruit. I really don't know a whole lot about him but I did see that IU is the only school to have offered him so far. Any insight on how he is leaning? Would he even be a good fit within the new system?

[Uspshoosier 45,178]

What is the deal with Matur Maker? Everything about his (and Thon's for that matter) recruitment seems odd.  Both of them seem to have been pains in the ***** to recruit. I really don't know a whole lot about him but I did see that IU is the only school to have offered him so far. Any insight on how he is leaning? Would he even be a good fit within the new system?

That offer came his freshman year. He became less a priority as the years pass and I have not seen anything on him with IU in a couple of years. The last I heard Arizona st would be the school that would be linked to Matur. With IU coaching change I would say there is 0 chance he would end up at IU

 

 

Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

[Stuhoo 79,786]

Since this thread is a bit of a referendum on next season, below is a "way too early" USA Today pre-season poll for next year.

NOTE: The Archie effect has put our Hoosiers as a pre-season #15 ranking nationally, which in this poll makes them the highest ranked B1G team!

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2017/04/04/college-basketball-early-preseason-2017-18-top-25-march-madness/99893982/

[Hoosier Guy 7,518]

Not surprised by that Stu. Archie is gonna do great things with this team


Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

Since this thread is a bit of a referendum on next season, below is a "way too early" USA Today pre-season poll for next year.
NOTE: The Archie effect has put our Hoosiers as a pre-season #15 ranking nationally, which in this poll makes them the highest ranked B1G team!
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2017/04/04/college-basketball-early-preseason-2017-18-top-25-march-madness/99893982/

That's... surprising. Considering nothing really changed from last year personnel wise. A lot still riding on Newkirk, RoJo, or Green stepping up into a confident PG role. I'm optimistic again this year about Newkirk, especially with how he finished the season, but hesitant for sure.


Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

[incrediboy 922]

12 hours ago, waitingon6 said:

Plus, he's one of the better rebounding guards in the country!

Sent from my SM-G900V using BtownBanners mobile app
 

I will give him that much. He is indeed an excellent rebounder for his size.

[rebelhoosier848891 9,588]

Since this thread is a bit of a referendum on next season, below is a "way too early" USA Today pre-season poll for next year.
NOTE: The Archie effect has put our Hoosiers as a pre-season #15 ranking nationally, which in this poll makes them the highest ranked B1G team!
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2017/04/04/college-basketball-early-preseason-2017-18-top-25-march-madness/99893982/

Gotta like the instant respect Archie brings to the program. If everybody but OG stays--we could end up top 10. It's a new day in BTown--stay hungry my friends!


Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

[moyemayhem 1,283]

9 hours ago, Dalton26 said:

 

I could see him being similar to a James Jones type. He won't get many minutes but when he does he'll knock down some threes.

 

Blackmon is nothing like Jones other than the fact that they both have a good shot.  Jones is 4-5 inches taller and averaged 1.3spg/2.4bpg as a junior and 1.6spg/1.8bpg as a senior in college.

[Dalton26 16,892]

48 minutes ago, moyemayhem said:

Blackmon is nothing like Jones other than the fact that they both have a good shot.  Jones is 4-5 inches taller and averaged 1.3spg/2.4bpg as a junior and 1.6spg/1.8bpg as a senior in college.

Which is why I said a James Jones type and said he wouldn't get many minutes but would knock down some threes when he did. I'm not trying to be an asshole but it seems like you didn't even read what I said. Plus we are talking about the NBA so what James Jones did in college doesn't matter at all. I've probably watched more of James Jones in the NBA than anyone else on here so I know what I am talking about.

[moyemayhem 1,283]

1 hour ago, Dalton26 said:

Which is why I said a James Jones type and said he wouldn't get many minutes but would knock down some threes when he did. I'm not trying to be an ******* but it seems like you didn't even read what I said. Plus we are talking about the NBA so what James Jones did in college doesn't matter at all. I've probably watched more of James Jones in the NBA than anyone else on here so I know what I am talking about.

I wasn't trying to get chippy...  I was just offering my opinion that Blackmon isn't a James Jones type.  I agree that they both can knock down threes, I just don't think they can be compared because Blackmon's size would prevent him from matching up with the same type of players on the defensive end.  Apologies if I took your quote out of context.

[Hoosier Guy 7,518]

Gotta like the instant respect Archie brings to the program. If everybody but OG stays--we could end up top 10. It's a new day in BTown--stay hungry my friends!


Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

Not only would they be top 10 but IU would win the B1G


Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

[Dalton26 16,892]

9 minutes ago, moyemayhem said:

I wasn't trying to get chippy...  I was just offering my opinion that Blackmon isn't a James Jones type.  I agree that they both can knock down threes, I just don't think they can be compared because Blackmon's size would prevent him from matching up with the same type of players on the defensive end.  Apologies if I took your quote out of context.

No worries. I'm talking more from the standpoint of his offensive game, thats what I meant by type. I know JBJ doesnt have the size JJ does but if he can just knock down those shots when called upon I think he can find a team.

[HinnyHoosier 4,805]

Since this thread is a bit of a referendum on next season, below is a "way too early" USA Today pre-season poll for next year.
NOTE: The Archie effect has put our Hoosiers as a pre-season #15 ranking nationally, which in this poll makes them the highest ranked B1G team!
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2017/04/04/college-basketball-early-preseason-2017-18-top-25-march-madness/99893982/

Also included in the odds next season




Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app