Player and Recruit Retention News/Discussion & Potential Transfers

[mdn82]

Is there an exception when coaches are hired/fired or players already committed since miller contacted smith, Durham, and Moore or are we about to get the death penalty while unc is playing in the championship?

Nah. During a dead period we can't have face to face. You can phone or text. During the previous quiet period you could communicate with upcoming college bound players.


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[Uspshoosier]

Is there an exception when coaches are hired/fired or players already committed since miller contacted smith, Durham, and Moore or are we about to get the death penalty while unc is playing in the championship?

Those guys had signed letter of intents already they just asked to be released which IU asked them to wait until they talk to the coach before they were released. Not sure CAM has met with them in person yet for them to receive their release


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[IUfan_Charlie]

On 4/2/2017 at 11:45 AM, Hoosier Guy said:

Blackmon knows he would shine for IU his senior season. He's now got a coach that will actually run plays for him. He's gonna come back and excel under Archie. He'll be drafted 1st round in 2018

I like Blackmon more than just about anyone on this site and there is a zero percent chance of him going in the first round. 

[Hoosier Guy]

27 minutes ago, IUfan_Charlie said:

I like Blackmon more than just about anyone on this site and there is a zero percent chance of him going in the first round. 

Not true. He has the talent and now he has the coaching. Blackmon is gonna shine

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

59 minutes ago, gfunk69 said:

Is there an exception when coaches are hired/fired or players already committed since miller contacted smith, Durham, and Moore or are we about to get the death penalty while unc is playing in the championship?

They had already signed LOI's so no problem.

[mdn82]

Not true. He has the talent and now he has the coaching. Blackmon is gonna shine

He would also be a Senior with multiple knee injuries that lacks the ability to play consistent defense. Offensively he is fine, but there is limited upside. No chance of a 1st.


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[Bruce038]

Its starting to feel like it would be extremely awkward if a player were to transfer

Please be priller


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[Jam]

Those three have signed letters. They are not the same as uncommitted recruits.

[Hoosier Guy]

12 minutes ago, mdn82 said:

He would also be a Senior with multiple knee injuries that lacks the ability to play consistent defense. Offensively he is fine, but there is limited upside. No chance of a 1st.


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Who's to say he can't play consistent defense? It's very possible that Blackmon didn't want to play any defense because it wasn't stressed as that big a deal under Crean. Coaching makes a huge difference and Archie is gonna do just that

[Walking Boot of Doom]

1 minute ago, Hoosier Guy said:

Who's to say he can't play consistent defense? It's very possible that Blackmon didn't want to play any defense because it wasn't stressed as that big a deal under Crean. Coaching makes a huge difference and Archie is gonna do just that

Three years of evidence says he can't. I think it's likely that his commitment to defense will improve with Archie, but I definitely won't be holding my breath.

[mdn82]

Who's to say he can't play consistent defense? It's very possible that Blackmon didn't want to play any defense because it wasn't stressed as that big a deal under Crean. Coaching makes a huge difference and Archie is gonna do just that

I think you are underestimating how bad his defense would be considered at the next level. As well as how him being a senior with multiple knee injuries will cost him. There are limitations that players such as Yogi have/had. Not saying he can't make a team, but he will not be a 1st rounder.


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[BtownBanner6]

Who's to say he can't play consistent defense? It's very possible that Blackmon didn't want to play any defense because it wasn't stressed as that big a deal under Crean. Coaching makes a huge difference and Archie is gonna do just that

You have to look at a guy like Malcolm Brogdon hell of a player but still went second round, his age was his biggest issue, it's tough for seniors to go first round.

[Hoosier Guy]

Just remember who said he's gonna be a 1st rounder. Blackmon is gonna excel under Archie. I'm sure he knows this and he will come back

[Walking Boot of Doom]

Just remember who said he's gonna be a 1st rounder. Blackmon is gonna excel under Archie. I'm sure he knows this and he will come back

Remember who said Billy was coming. Remember who said Archie is the greatest of all time. Remember who said everyone is coming back. JBJ is a first rounder. And on and on and on and on.

 

Got it.

 

Despite seemingly popular opinion on the board, the NBA does play defense, and JBJ would be a massive liability on the floor trying to guard the elite scorers of the NBA.

 

 

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[Stuhoo]

Terrible awareness + terrible knees = terrible defense = not drafted.

[Bowhunter]

Just remember who said he's gonna be a 1st rounder. Blackmon is gonna excel under Archie. I'm sure he knows this and he will come back

He may come back but not a first rounder

 

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[Hoosier Guy]

6 minutes ago, Walking Boot of Doom said:

Remember who said Billy was coming. Remember who said Archie is the greatest of all time. Remember who said everyone is coming back. JBJ is a first rounder. And on and on and on and on.

 

Got it.

 

Despite seemingly popular opinion on the board, the NBA does play defense, and JBJ would be a massive liability on the floor trying to guard the elite scorers of the NBA.

 

 

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NBA absolutely plays defense. Anyone who says they don't is not very intelligent. Just wait and see man. Blackmon is gonna be great his senior season. I've not been the biggest Blackmon fan because I don't think he's given 100% effort up to this point. But now he has a coach that not just him but the whole team can get behind. Just wait and see

[Miller'sTheMan]

Listen I like Archie as a coach too and everything, but Blackmon won't become some great defender under him. Best case scenario he'll be able to hide him relatively well but that's it. The bottom line is Blackmon doesn't have great instincts or lateral quickness defensively, those are two things guys tend to naturally have, not something a coach teaches you.

The NBA definitely won't put a first rounder into a below average athlete (by NBA standards) with questionable lateral movement ability who has a history of knee injuries who also happens to be pretty one dimensional offensively... Sorry to sound harsh, but Blackmon just isn't a first rounder, doesn't mean he can't have success but he has very real limitations that good coaching can't fix in a year.

[Hoosier Guy]

8 minutes ago, Hardwood83 said:

Would love for you to be right, but I'm not seeing it. Put it this way, would you want your favorite NBA team to draft JBJ in the first round? I sure wouldn't.

On the first three years? Absolutely not. But Blackmon has a chance to be amazing his senior season. We'll see if he wants to be that good

[Old Friend]

19 minutes ago, Hoosier Guy said:

On the first three years? Absolutely not. But Blackmon has a chance to be amazing his senior season. We'll see if he wants to be that good

Blackmon will never be amazing unless he decides - as you say - to make someone on his team better or play defense even a little bit.  He may be an amazing AAU player, but not an amazing BIG player.