TOM CREAN FIRED

[Hwy 1 2,053]

The only thing that really changes is the names. Doesn't matter what sport or what team it's all the same.

 

 

If you have a good moderating staff they'll try to keep it so people are respectful to each other and the team. If not the place turns into Scout and everyone leaves except for the few who drove everyone else away. It's a simple formula that isn't quite so simple to execute.  It's pretty easy to over or under enforce to the detriment of the group. Many places end up under enforcing either out of an overly idealistic sense of freedom of speech or they tire of the battle and give up. Getting it right is a never ending and mostly unappreciated task. 

[Dalton26 16,892]

[quote name="Hwy 1" post="44980" timestamp="1394112058"]I'm pretty sure I'm not going to watch it again.[/quote]

So you're saying I shouldn't watch a replay?


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[Hwy 1 2,053]

So you're saying I shouldn't watch a replay?


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Do as you wish. I saw it once, that was more than enough for me. ;)

[Dalton26 16,892]

[quote name="Hwy 1" post="44990" timestamp="1394114930"]Do as you wish. I saw it once, that was more than enough for me. ;)[/quote]
I'm just going to take your word for it.


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[CampHoosier 3,697]

We should have made the tourney. We shouldn't have lost to BIG basement dwellers. This team had the talent. I'm not on the train to let Crean go, but I seriously question where his head is at during games. Sub patterns that don't make sense, unprepared teams, and the inability to figure out a zone. You can be stupid or you can be stubborn. Don't be both. 

[JSHoosier 19,816]

So you're saying I shouldn't watch a replay?


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Do as you wish, it's not a fun thing to watch though.  Sitting with Alex Morgan or Emma Watson wouldn't have made me enjoy watching that game.

[Hwy 1 2,053]

Do as you wish, it's not a fun thing to watch though.  Sitting with Alex Morgan or Emma Watson wouldn't have made me enjoy watching that game.

 

 

You need to prioritize better. ;)

[JSHoosier 19,816]

You need to prioritize better. ;)

The game truly was that miserable to watch.  Although if I was sitting next to either of them, I'd have a good excuse not to pay attention to the s*** show.

[CampHoosier 3,697]

If we lose to Illinois in the BTT, I might go to the train station and think about buying a ticket to the fire Crean train. I never thought I would ever say that. Especially after last season. But to have Noah Vonleh and Yogi Ferrell on the same team and not make the tourney? You actually have to try and do that

[TheRobBob 0]

Ok I honestly wish Crean wasn't as bad as a coach as he honestly is. The fact of the matter he just isn't as good at the Xs and Os as most elementary girls basketball coachs. We don't even run an offense. We just hand the ball off and there is no movement at all with anyone who doesn't have the ball until there is a few seconds left and we jack up a long shot. We can't even get the ball inbounds from out of bounds. Half the time we are throwing it 3/4 the court to try and get it in. No one sets pick or moves to try and get the ball in either but I assume the reason is the same as the 1/2 court offense they do not have any plays to run(at least none worth anything). The only time we look good is on fast breaks. Another thing I don't understand is if u ask a group of 7th graders how tobeat a zone they should be able to explain it to you. How can Crean or anyone on the coaching staff for that matter not understand how? If you don't understand something as simple as how to beat a zone why would you try and run a zone yourself...... Crean has to go for IU to every have a chance to be any good. We basically had a team that should have made the Final 4 with a 2 year old coaching them. Anyone who disagrees please watch all 4 guys on offense while Yogi is just dribbling around and they are all stagnant.

[RBB89 3,497]

Why hello there, Captain Hyperbole. Roy Williams, John Calipari, and even Bob Knight must be 2 year olds.

[All_Hoosiers 873]

[quote name="TheRobBob" post="46296" timestamp="1394474795"]Ok I honestly wish Crean wasn't as bad as a coach as he honestly is. The fact of the matter he just isn't as good at the Xs and Os as most elementary girls basketball coachs. We don't even run an offense. We just hand the ball off and there is no movement at all with anyone who doesn't have the ball until there is a few seconds left and we jack up a long shot. We can't even get the ball inbounds from out of bounds. Half the time we are throwing it 3/4 the court to try and get it in. No one sets pick or moves to try and get the ball in either but I assume the reason is the same as the 1/2 court offense they do not have any plays to run(at least none worth anything). The only time we look good is on fast breaks. Another thing I don't understand is if u ask a group of 7th graders how tobeat a zone they should be able to explain it to you. How can Crean or anyone on the coaching staff for that matter not understand how? If you don't understand something as simple as how to beat a zone why would you try and run a zone yourself...... Crean has to go for IU to every have a chance to be any good. We basically had a team that should have made the Final 4 with a 2 year old coaching them. Anyone who disagrees please watch all 4 guys on offense while Yogi is just dribbling around and they are all stagnant.[/quote]

We should just hire this guy.


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[Rayl 527]

You kind of lose all credibility when you say that we don't run an offense. We very clearly do. That should be obvious to anyone who actually watches the game. Even the much-loathed weave is designed to do something very specific on offense. Unfortunately, it has its counters and that's why it is often ineffective. Although, it does work sometimes.

 

Argue all you want that our offense doesn't work or work as well as you think it should, but we definitely have one that we run. I realize that it is a very complex offense, so if you are used to watching seventh graders, it might be a bit over your head to figure out what is going on.

[Hovadipo 54,997]

I gave up after 2 honestly's in one sentence followed by a "fact of the matter is.."


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[hoosierfan84 296]

Ok I honestly wish Crean wasn't as bad as a coach as he honestly is. The fact of the matter he just isn't as good at the Xs and Os as most elementary girls basketball coachs. We don't even run an offense. We just hand the ball off and there is no movement at all with anyone who doesn't have the ball until there is a few seconds left and we jack up a long shot. We can't even get the ball inbounds from out of bounds. Half the time we are throwing it 3/4 the court to try and get it in. No one sets pick or moves to try and get the ball in either but I assume the reason is the same as the 1/2 court offense they do not have any plays to run(at least none worth anything). The only time we look good is on fast breaks. Another thing I don't understand is if u ask a group of 7th graders how tobeat a zone they should be able to explain it to you. How can Crean or anyone on the coaching staff for that matter not understand how? If you don't understand something as simple as how to beat a zone why would you try and run a zone yourself...... Crean has to go for IU to every have a chance to be any good. We basically had a team that should have made the Final 4 with a 2 year old coaching them. Anyone who disagrees please watch all 4 guys on offense while Yogi is just dribbling around and they are all stagnant.

Well... OK.

[HoosierAloha 30,024]

Think what I posted about simple people thinking too simple applies here.


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[TheRobBob 0]

You kind of lose all credibility when you say that we don't run an offense. We very clearly do. That should be obvious to anyone who actually watches the game. Even the much-loathed weave is designed to do something very specific on offense. Unfortunately, it has its counters and that's why it is often ineffective. Although, it does work sometimes.

Argue all you want that our offense doesn't work or work as well as you think it should, but we definitely have one that we run. I realize that it is a very complex offense, so if you are used to watching seventh graders, it might be a bit over your head to figure out what is going on.

Ok so I guess my "we don't run an offense" went over your head... We set up to run a weave hand of fish thing? but we look like "7th graders" running it. We don't attack the basket or even hustle. I FEEL LIKE anyone who has watched any game this season should be able to see that. Everyone is going through the motions and no one is attacking and passing or even just attacking for that matter. It seems like 50% of the time we are handing the ball off and or going away from the basket.


As far as the comment about "watching 7th graders" a lot of this season during the games I felt like I was watching 7th graders when they were trying to get the ball inbounds underneath the basket.

[Rayl 527]

Oy. You complain about not attacking the basket and the weave. That's really pretty silly considering the weave is designed to create favorable matchups and positioning to attack the basket with. We aren't playing 5 Michael Jordans out there who can just beat their man and get to the rim at will.

 

The weave, when it works, creates the opportunity to attack the basket. It hasn't worked very well this season. If you've been watching, you should have noticed that we've been running it less and less.

[TrueHoosier62 1,592]

To: TheRobbob:

 

I'm glad to see someone else echo the same points I'd made a month ago to the "Crean Crowd". Of course, your response to their blatant, personal, and belittling sarcasm better be kept in check! It's one thing for the "Crean Crowd" to do it; quite another indeed young man for you to think you can get away with it! 

Take solace in this, my logical and sighted friend: 

As this train wreck of a season comes skidding slowly down the tracks, you'll hear the "Crean Crowd in full throat, continue their masterful spin of the devastation, saying things like, "well, it could have been worse", or "just wait until Blackmon gets here", or my personal favorite "Well, at least Purdue didn't win it either". Just remember that these people are our brothers in the Cream and Crimson. Sure, they may be graduates from the Helen Keller school for the gifted, but we have to accept them and encourage them, and help them to develop those faculties, so tragically underdeveloped, through no fault of their own. Be kind, and be a big brother.  :yes:

[KingPG21 6,582]

Ok I honestly wish Crean wasn't as bad as a coach as he honestly is. The fact of the matter he just isn't as good at the Xs and Os as most elementary girls basketball coachs. We don't even run an offense. We just hand the ball off and there is no movement at all with anyone who doesn't have the ball until there is a few seconds left and we jack up a long shot. We can't even get the ball inbounds from out of bounds. Half the time we are throwing it 3/4 the court to try and get it in. No one sets pick or moves to try and get the ball in either but I assume the reason is the same as the 1/2 court offense they do not have any plays to run(at least none worth anything). The only time we look good is on fast breaks. Another thing I don't understand is if u ask a group of 7th graders how tobeat a zone they should be able to explain it to you. How can Crean or anyone on the coaching staff for that matter not understand how? If you don't understand something as simple as how to beat a zone why would you try and run a zone yourself...... Crean has to go for IU to every have a chance to be any good. We basically had a team that should have made the Final 4 with a 2 year old coaching them. Anyone who disagrees please watch all 4 guys on offense while Yogi is just dribbling around and they are all stagnant.

The zone is about 10 times more complicated to beat than a lot of fans make it out to be. It doesn't help that they are playing against guys of mostly the same skill level who are running a zone that is itself is difficult to beat. But of course since the ideas of how to beat a zone seem simple a lot of fans think it should be easy to execute, which it isn't. 

 

Also can we stop with the statements like "anyone who disagrees go do (insert any number of statements that implies they aren't watching enough of something)".