TOM CREAN FIRED

[Yogi's Picnic Basket 5,004]

5 straight years with a tourney win. I may not like his persona but he can coach the hell out of a team. That was the best win I have seen so far in the tourney based on coaching.

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[Chris Nieman 669]

2 minutes ago, Yogi's Picnic Basket said:

5 straight years with a tourney win. I may not like his persona but he can coach the hell out of a team. That was the best win I have seen so far in the tourney based on coaching.

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Agreed. Im not the HUGEST fan of his persona but goddamn he can coach.

[Yogi's Picnic Basket 5,004]

Archie coached a heck of a game too. Those two got played by the NCAA for having to play the first game against each other. WSU should have been at least a 5 or 6 seed. Nothing changes for me on Archie.

1. Stevens
2. Donovan
3. Bennett
4. Sean Miller
5. Archie/Marshall
6. Mike White
7. Alford/Enfield/Collins
8. Bryce Drew/Brad Underwood

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[JSHoosier 20,310]

6 minutes ago, Chris Nieman said:

Thank you. I'd put he and Bennett as equal.

As I've said a few times, he is an absolutely undeniable upgrade over Crean and it's not a comparison.  The floor would be higher, I'm just not sure how high the ceiling would be.

[Chris Nieman 669]

Just now, JSHoosier said:

As I've said a few times, he is an absolutely undeniable upgrade over Crean and it's not a comparison.  The floor would be higher, I'm just not sure how high the ceiling would be.

Word. Word. You never know. I think that he is top 10 in college ball right now.

[8bucks 6,476]

I don't get it either. I guess some think he's on the older side, or the Canada thing? If can't imagine anyone not supporting his coaching. 
Like you, I don't think he's on the Donovan/Stephens level, but he's as good as anyone else we're discussing after that. 

After having Crean, who was somewhat quirky, people "think" Marshall is his clone. I have even heard some argue his results are a clone of Creans because he lost early as a #1 seed.

He would be a great hire, after BS and BD and someday if he gets a chance at a bigger program may prove to be even better

[Chris Nieman 669]

Just now, 8bucks said:

After having Crean, who was somewhat quirky, people "think" Marshall is his clone. I have even heard some argue his results are a clone of Creans because he lost early as a #1 seed.

He would be a great hire, after BS and BD and someday if he gets a chance at a bigger program may prove to be even better

Yeah obviously i want Stevens or Donovan but Marshall is right up there.

[biteoftheapple 4,115]

I would like to see Marshall at Illinois, not Indiana. My preference

[Chris Nieman 669]

5 minutes ago, biteoftheapple said:

I would like to see Marshall at Illinois, not Indiana. My preference

Noooooooooo. Stay far away from the big10 if he's not gonna be at indiana

[Trish 11,620]

Explain why not.

Imagine doing this vs a Canada team in a pointless game.

Add in the chatter he's hard to get along with

Add in playing in a D2 conference.

No. Just no.


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[Yogi's Picnic Basket 5,004]

Noooooooooo. Stay far away from the big10 if he's not gonna be at indiana

Yeah I would rather not see a reminder we missed on a big time coach once or twice maybe 3 times a year!! IU or bust for Marshall if we make it to him.

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[Chris Nieman 669]

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Imagine doing this vs a Canada team in a pointless game.

Add in the chatter he's hard to get along with

Add in playing in a D2 conference.

No. Just no.


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Do you know the whole story with this?

[Chris Nieman 669]

3 minutes ago, Treesh said:

 

 

 

 

Imagine doing this vs a Canada team in a pointless game.

Add in the chatter he's hard to get along with

Add in playing in a D2 conference.

No. Just no.


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I'm not saying that it's absolutely justified but as a guy that has worried about the safety of the guys that i'm accountable for... i get it.

[Trish 11,620]

Do you know the whole story with this?

I do not. But getting suspended on a road trip game in Canada is enough for me to say NO.

Congrats for him for winning a lot.. but why does Indiana have to be his first REAL test? I thought this was Indiana? We need a home run hire.




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[Chris Nieman 669]

Just now, Treesh said:

 

I do not. But getting suspended on a road trip game in Canada is enough for me to say NO.

Congrats for him for winning a lot.. but why does Indiana have to be his first REAL test? I thought this was Indiana? We need a home run hire.




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Like i said man, I'm all for Stevens, or Donovan. But after them I think Marshall has shown me the most over the years.

[Trish 11,620]

Like i said man, I'm all for Stevens, or Donovan. But after them I think Marshall has shown me the most over the years.

Give me Holtmann , Bennett, or White over Marshall. All younger and proven they can win with X's and O's


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[Chris Nieman 669]

4 minutes ago, Treesh said:

 

Give me Holtmann , Bennett, or White over Marshall. All younger and proven they can win with X's and O's


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To your previous point about being "proven" how are those guys more proven than Marshall?

[Chris Nieman 669]

8 minutes ago, Treesh said:

 

Give me Holtmann , Bennett, or White over Marshall. All younger and proven they can win with X's and O's


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He's been to a final four without nearly the resources that IU has.

[BGleas 7,917]

14 minutes ago, Treesh said:

 

Give me Holtmann , Bennett, or White over Marshall. All younger and proven they can win with X's and O's


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Marshall is infinitely more proven than White or Holtman and it's not even close, and he's just as proven as Bennett if not more. 

How has Marshall not won with X's and O's? 

[Chris Nieman 669]

2 minutes ago, BGleas said:

Marshall is infinitely more proven than White or Holtman and it's not even close, and he's just as proven as Bennett if not more. 

How has Marshall not won with X's and O's? 

Yes. He's been a very consistent winner at a school with very little resources.