TOM CREAN FIRED

[iceman 63]

How are things going in the Crean house Iceman? You are related right. Hope you found a new house out of state. 

I will continue to be an IU fan for life & would never wish for them to not to win no matter the surroundings ! Just be careful what you wish for

[OliviaPope40 6,505]

Do we ask Mark Few to come?

[brandct 610]

2 minutes ago, OliviaPope40 said:

Do we ask Mark Few to come?

I didn't even think of him I don't know that he would but I would say you have to ask.

[Class of '66 Old Fart 84,529]

If Glass is planning to make a change certainly he'll reach out to a selected few targets typically through backdoor channels.  On the other hand, if the sharks a/k/a agents for the coaching fraternity start to smell blood, they'll be beating a path to Glass for coaches who would love a job in Bloomington. 

[sierracoach 66]

1 hour ago, Alford Bailey said:

And NO WAY Glass hire a coach with the temper of Frank Martin. Will not happen.

if so, that would presumably also eliminate Marshall.

[HoosierTrav 7,880]

Just curious...why? I prefer Archie and a few others, but other than the over the top intensity, Martin can really coach a disciplined team.

Because he's won even less than Tom Crean... I am baffled that anyone is even suggesting Frank Martin at IU. That would be the nail in our coffin.

[HoosierTrav 7,880]

Better get used to names being thrown out there that dont seem logical. I do think Martin is a step above Crean but clearly wouldnt be in the fans top group. 

There is literally no evidence to suggest that Martin is a step up from Crean. There's a lot that suggest he's a downgrade.

[HoosierTrav 7,880]

An IU message board. Shouldn't take it serious. Everyone knows Frank Martin would be a major downgrade. We might as well hire Bruce Webber


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We could re hire Mike Davis and not notice a difference.

[Yogi's Picnic Basket 5,004]

I'm saying no to Altman, his defenses typically aren't much better than Crean's.  Gregg Marshall is a better choice than Altman.

I highly doubt that!! Altman has had a couple really good shot blockers lately. Boucher & Bell have been solid. Regardless if his defense is okay to probably above average for me he has done a lot with not that much talent. He has developed the guys he has to the names they hold. Watching Oregon as much as I have I can tell you his team plays to the whistle and they play with heart. I would take Altman but he isn't my top option but to act like he is an okay coach is crazy. Oregon was never a basketball school and he has made them a name for quite awhile now.

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[Uspshoosier 45,571]

9 minutes ago, Yogi's Picnic Basket said:

 

I highly doubt that!! Altman has had a couple really good shot blockers lately. Boucher & Bell have been solid. Regardless if his defense is okay to probably above average for me he has done a lot with not that much talent. He has developed the guys he has to the names they hold. Watching Oregon as much as I have I can tell you his team plays to the whistle and they play with heart. I would take Altman but he isn't my top option but to act like he is an okay coach is crazy. Oregon was never a basketball school and he has made them a name for quite awhile now.

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Oregon won the first national championship in basketball history.  But I get what you are saying 

[JSHoosier 20,085]

16 minutes ago, Yogi's Picnic Basket said:

 

I highly doubt that!! Altman has had a couple really good shot blockers lately. Boucher & Bell have been solid. Regardless if his defense is okay to probably above average for me he has done a lot with not that much talent. He has developed the guys he has to the names they hold. Watching Oregon as much as I have I can tell you his team plays to the whistle and they play with heart. I would take Altman but he isn't my top option but to act like he is an okay coach is crazy. Oregon was never a basketball school and he has made them a name for quite awhile now.

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I've posted his defensive ratings since he's been at Oregon, far from good.  His average AdjD is mid-80s at Oregon.

[Uspshoosier 45,571]

I've posted his defensive ratings since he's been at Oregon, far from good.  His average AdjD is mid-80s at Oregon.

If you want to win a title you better be top 20 in defensive and offensive efficiency.


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[IUHAHN81 2,178]

We're all getting excited throwing around names of replacements and we'll end up getting smacked in the damn mouth by him not going anywhere.  Haha

[JSHoosier 20,085]

1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said:

If you want to win a title you better be top 20 in defensive and offensive efficiency.


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I'm aware.  I would've gone back further than just his Oregon tenure but I was at work at the time.

[JSHoosier 20,085]

Just now, IUHAHN82 said:

We're all getting excited throwing around names of replacements and we'll end up getting smacked in the damn mouth by him not going anywhere.  Haha

Look at it this way, if he doesn't go anywhere then we know Glass is part of the problem.

[IUHAHN81 2,178]

We need a coach that gets pissed when it isn't going right.  Demand what he wants or take a seat.  Not always so positive which leads to no player learning a lesson.  There is always a place for encouragement but there is also a place for "if u don't wanna play MY way, have a seat."  Kids gotta know who's boss.

[Hurryin'Hoosier317 57]

I think that Crean is a great recruiter. But what it boils down to is the fact that he isn't an Xs and Os guy. Down the stretch time and time again he gets out coached. It's time for a change.


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[8bucks 6,429]

I think that Crean is a great recruiter. But what it boils down to is the fact that he isn't an Xs and Os guy. Down the stretch time and time again he gets out coached. It's time for a change.


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After the rebuild his recruiting has been good but not great considering he is at Indiana. Unbalanced classes and unbalanced rosters have really hurt his teams.

Considering he is at Indiana has he recruited better than his peers (Duke, UNC, Louisville, MSU, etc...)?

Can he ID some diamonds in the rough? Sure but a lot of times we end up with just the rough.

If you want to say he is great at finding diamonds in the rough I would argue less, but a great recruiter he is not.

[Hurryin'Hoosier317 57]

After the rebuild his recruiting has been good but not great considering he is at Indiana. Unbalanced classes and unbalanced rosters have really hurt his teams.

Considering he is at Indiana has he recruited better than his peers (Duke, UNC, Louisville, MSU, etc...)?

Can he ID some diamonds in the rough? Sure but a lot of times we end up with just the rough.

If you want to say he is great at finding diamonds in the rough I would argue less, but a great recruiter he is not.

I actually agree with you. I should of said is a decent recruiter. As of late we haven't recruited well at all.


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[Uspshoosier 45,571]

After the rebuild his recruiting has been good but not great considering he is at Indiana. Unbalanced classes and unbalanced rosters have really hurt his teams.

 

Considering he is at Indiana has he recruited better than his peers (Duke, UNC, Louisville, MSU, etc...)?

 

Can he ID some diamonds in the rough? Sure but a lot of times we end up with just the rough.

 

If you want to say he is great at finding diamonds in the rough I would argue less, but a great recruiter he is not.

Actually yes he has recruited better then Michigan st if you go by the team rankings

 

 

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