weaverswonders6 Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 9 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said: Good to know. He said we had to win 5 to get in. I gave an example of winning 4 and getting in comfortably. Regardless iu goes 9-9 in he B1G they will get in. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Oh I agree we'd get in with wins against those 4 teams, but I find the likelihood of that happening 0.00000001% Quote
Uspshoosier Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 Oh I agree we'd get in with wins against those 4 teams, but I find the likelihood of that happening 0.00000001%Purdue is only one on that list of 4 teams that I feel is almost impossible. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Quote
weaverswonders6 Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 Ya, I meant the probability of winning all 4 of those combined. I think we can take any 1 of the 4, but together? Nahhhhh Quote
Uspshoosier Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 Ya, I meant the probability of winning all 4 of those combined. I think we can take any 1 of the 4, but together? NahhhhhI'm confident 3 of the 4 we could win. I've watched Minny a lot this year and I want to impressed. Plus little pitino is one of the few coaches i would feel alright with crean coaching against him. Minny has been good but has major flaws. Sound familiar. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Quote
HoosierAloha Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 Is it possible we could order up a few more cupcakes to get to those 19 wins? From #3 in the country to out of the tourney. hsrtxp 1 Quote
AZ Hoosier Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 Is it possible we could order up a few more cupcakes to get to those 19 wins? From #3 in the country to out of the tourney. Unfortunately, this year, we ARE the cupcake in most scenarios. ALASKA HOOSIER and HoosierAloha 2 Quote
Old Friend Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 Sometimes, facts are all anyone needs to see. I dare anyone in the administration to tell me this is good enough at Indiana. weaverswonders6, MikeRoberts, Class of '66 Old Fart and 1 other 4 Quote
weaverswonders6 Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 Ya, goes along with what I posted in the Fire Crean thread... Over the last 4 seasons, we're 36-29 in the BiG with three finishes of seventh or worse over last four seasons – including this one not yet concluded. I decided to extrapolate on that further. Since 2012 we're 61-41 in conference. Other than the 2 BiG championships CTC has won(remove 2013 and 2016) we're 32-34. Under .500 in conference for 2012, 14, 15, and this year. More often than not in the last 6 years, we've been under .500 in conference. I think I posted this before the PU game too, so add another to the loss columns. Alford Bailey, MikeRoberts and Old Friend 3 Quote
Class of '66 Old Fart Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 Old Friend's post caught me by surprise. I didn't realize our record against the KenPom top 100 was as weak as it is. Tend to remember the big wins and not all of the losses. No wonder we schedule so many cupcakes. Many thanks to Old Friend for this post. HoosierAloha, Feathery, Alford Bailey and 2 others 5 Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 Just disgusting. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners Feathery, HoosierAloha, Alford Bailey and 1 other 4 Quote
weaverswonders6 Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 But but but we have the most wins against top 5 or 10 teams in the last however many years..... HoosierAloha, ALASKA HOOSIER and Feathery 3 Quote
Hoosier Guy Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 God it has to end Feathery and HoosierAloha 2 Quote
Magnanimous Posted February 12, 2017 Posted February 12, 2017 The one statistic that has always pissed me off is this: from the 2009 through 2014 recruiting classes (giving Crean a pass on 2008 because he filled that last minute), 29 players committed to play for Crean. Of those 29 commits, 13 have (/will) finished their college career with IU (assuming Hartman and Priller do not transfer). Less than half of the kids he recruits stay at Indiana, and even fewer last four seasons with the Hoosiers when factoring in early NBA departures. Between the 2010 and 2013 classes (four recruiting classes), three of the 17 commits (Sheehey,Yogi, and Hartman) were four year players. Feathery, HoosierAloha and ALASKA HOOSIER 3 Quote
weaverswonders6 Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 I'll add on to your thread with some other numbers.... Seeing these stats just really puts it in perspective. Our conference finishes from 2011-present: 2011: 11th 2012: 5th 2013: 1st 2014: T8th 2015: 7th 2016: 1st 2017: 10th (proj) Quote
JSHoosier Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 1 minute ago, weaverswonders6 said: I'll add on to your thread with some other numbers.... Seeing these stats just really puts it in perspective. Our conference finishes from 2011-present: 2011: 11th 2012: 5th 2013: 1st 2014: T8th 2015: 7th 2016: 1st 2017: 10th (proj) Which means in almost 20 years of coaching, Crean has finished above 4th in a major conference twice. Quote
weaverswonders6 Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 Not to mention a pattern of 2 lowly finishes for every conference title. Maybe Crean is more consistent than we give him credit for? Just need to wait 3 yrs between good teams haha. Quote
JSHoosier Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 1 minute ago, weaverswonders6 said: Not to mention a pattern of 2 lowly finishes for every conference title. Maybe Crean is more consistent than we give him credit for? Just need to wait 3 yrs between good teams haha. His only consistency is wallowing in mediocrity. Quote
Uspshoosier Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 I'll add on to your thread with some other numbers.... Seeing these stats just really puts it in perspective. Our conference finishes from 2011-present: 2011: 11th 2012: 5th 2013: 1st 2014: T8th 2015: 7th 2016: 1st 2017: 10th (proj)At least the year we finished 5th we were only 2 games back of 1st. I would much rather finish 5th 2 games back instead of tied for 2nd 6 games back like iu did 1998-1999. Definitely not defending crean just I don't look at where a team finishes but rather how many games back from 1st did they finish Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Class of '66 Old Fart 1 Quote
Old Friend Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 12 minutes ago, JSHoosier said: Which means in almost 20 years of coaching, Crean has finished above 4th in a major conference twice. Correct. And I've said that for a couple of years. When Bob Knight was let go, people said the game had passed him by. Time to go. Blah, blah. With his worst teams. When he had truly quit caring about recruiting. From 1994 until he was fired in 2000, he STILL finished higher than 4th four times. Crean's done it twice in his career; and we're supposed to think that's okay?? I got into it a couple of years ago with one of the holier than thou folks on the Scout site about Bo Ryan and Wisconsin. His argument was we don't want to be Wisconsin, they never win titles. I said then and I'll say NOW that if Indiana is in the conversation every year, our fans will be happy, and we'll do just fine compared to Wisconsin because we'll always (with the right coach) be able to attract better talent. Bo Ryan never finished BELOW 4th in the Big Ten. Crean is 4-18 vs. Wisconsin. Are we Indiana or...not? Fred? Mr. McRobbie? WayneFleekHoosier, Stuhoo, weaverswonders6 and 2 others 5 Quote
SteelerHoosier Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 44 minutes ago, Old Friend said: Correct. And I've said that for a couple of years. When Bob Knight was let go, people said the game had passed him by. Time to go. Blah, blah. With his worst teams. When he had truly quit caring about recruiting. From 1994 until he was fired in 2000, he STILL finished higher than 4th four times. Crean's done it twice in his career; and we're supposed to think that's okay?? I got into it a couple of years ago with one of the holier than thou folks on the Scout site about Bo Ryan and Wisconsin. His argument was we don't want to be Wisconsin, they never win titles. I said then and I'll say NOW that if Indiana is in the conversation every year, our fans will be happy, and we'll do just fine compared to Wisconsin because we'll always (with the right coach) be able to attract better talent. Bo Ryan never finished BELOW 4th in the Big Ten. Crean is 4-18 vs. Wisconsin. Are we Indiana or...not? Fred? Mr. McRobbie? This this this this. Well ****ing stated ALASKA HOOSIER 1 Quote
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