College Football Thread

[rcbowla 6,973]

I think the NFL will need to change how they do guaranteed money on rookie contracts if they want to prevent this from being a real problem 

I don't think you'll see the NFL be influenced by collegiate players decisions to stay an additional year. The inherent risk is 100% on the players and if they don't get injured they'll still be there the next year. If they get hurt then an NFL franchise just saved themselves $. Players would be making a bad business decision to stay if their draft stock is as high as it can be, i.e. Harrison.

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[LIHoosier 25,675]

18 minutes ago, rcs29 said:

I don't think you'll see the NFL be influenced by collegiate players decisions to stay an additional year. The inherent risk is 100% on the players and if they don't get injured they'll still be there the next year. If they get hurt then an NFL franchise just saved themselves $. Players would be making a bad business decision to stay if their draft stock is as high as it can be, i.e. Harrison.

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Watt makes my point for me. You're essentially keeping yourself an extra year from getting the veteran contract which is where the even real-er money is.

 

[Hovadipo 54,771]

1 hour ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

The Daily Hoosier -

And now former IU QB Michael Penix, Jr. has won the Maxwell Award, given to college football's best player.

8 of the last 9 Maxwell winners have won the Heisman. Looking good. 

[Class of '66 Old Fart 83,644]

8 hours ago, Hovadipo said:

8 of the last 9 Maxwell winners have won the Heisman. Looking good. 

Still remember how Anthony Thompson got stiffed on winning the Heisman.   :-(

[Tom White 1,435]

10 hours ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

The Daily Hoosier -

And now former IU QB Michael Penix, Jr. has won the Maxwell Award, given to college football's best player.

Another one to file under What Could Have Been.

[Class of '66 Old Fart 83,644]

2 hours ago, Tom White said:

Another one to file under What Could Have Been.

I agree with your sentiment, but he never would have achieved this success had he remained at IU.

[go iu bb 5,436]

Here we go again. When FSU got shafted I thought that would be what pushed them out of the ACC since they had already been looking to get out. At very least there would be rumors about it. Here are the rumors:

https://spartanswire.usatoday.com/2023/12/08/rumor-florida-state-working-to-leave-acc-for-big-ten-within-next-month/

If they do leave, CFP committee may have just killed the ACC if this happens. 1/2 of the ACC was already looking to leave and the ACC would become that much weaker without FSU and it was already weak enough that an undefeated ACC wasn't good enough to get into the CFP over 2 11-loss teams.

[Josh 12,518]

17 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

Here we go again. When FSU got shafted I thought that would be what pushed them out of the ACC since they had already been looking to get out. At very least there would be rumors about it. Here are the rumors:

https://spartanswire.usatoday.com/2023/12/08/rumor-florida-state-working-to-leave-acc-for-big-ten-within-next-month/

If they do leave, CFP committee may have just killed the ACC if this happens. 1/2 of the ACC was already looking to leave and the ACC would become that much weaker without FSU and it was already weak enough that an undefeated ACC wasn't good enough to get into the CFP over 2 11-loss teams.

I posted the same thing after the nerds behind the computers decided they know more about football than the results on the field.  College Football Playoff committee nerds killed the ACC

But I'm happy about this though.  IU games in Florida is exactly what I need in my life

[Tom White 1,435]

29 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

Here we go again. When FSU got shafted I thought that would be what pushed them out of the ACC since they had already been looking to get out. At very least there would be rumors about it. Here are the rumors:

https://spartanswire.usatoday.com/2023/12/08/rumor-florida-state-working-to-leave-acc-for-big-ten-within-next-month/

If they do leave, CFP committee may have just killed the ACC if this happens. 1/2 of the ACC was already looking to leave and the ACC would become that much weaker without FSU and it was already weak enough that an undefeated ACC wasn't good enough to get into the CFP over 2 11-loss teams.

HA! If this trend continues, I can picture the BigTen being forced to break up much like years ago when AT&T was forced to separate from the seven "baby bells".

[Josh 12,518]

5 minutes ago, Tom White said:

HA! If this trend continues, I can picture the BigTen being forced to break up much like years ago when AT&T was forced to separate from the seven "baby bells".

Agreed.  Which is why we have to start performing in football.  Absolutely have to

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 8,592]

1 hour ago, Tom White said:

HA! If this trend continues, I can picture the BigTen being forced to break up much like years ago when AT&T was forced to separate from the seven "baby bells".

It'll happen eventually. Schools will start realizing that losing isn't good and having a bigger and bigger conference will only lead to more losing.

[Hovadipo 54,771]

Dillon Gabriel to Oregon. Huge get for Lanning. 

[Hardwood83 4,725]

1 hour ago, go iu bb said:

Here we go again. When FSU got shafted I thought that would be what pushed them out of the ACC since they had already been looking to get out. At very least there would be rumors about it. Here are the rumors:

https://spartanswire.usatoday.com/2023/12/08/rumor-florida-state-working-to-leave-acc-for-big-ten-within-next-month/

If they do leave, CFP committee may have just killed the ACC if this happens. 1/2 of the ACC was already looking to leave and the ACC would become that much weaker without FSU and it was already weak enough that an undefeated ACC wasn't good enough to get into the CFP over 2 11-loss teams.

I have to disagree. The CFP isn't killing the ACC. Sure FSU got screwed, but leaving their conference doesn't fix that, it's just an excuse. 

What is the end game here for the B1G and conference expansion? Sincere question- is the goal simply mindlessly gathering as many valuable properties as possible (like a hoarder) or is there a plan to make sense of this at some point? I want to believe there is, but circumstances tell me otherwise. This isn't some inevitable progress, it's just mania for it's own sake. 

Can someone explain to me how a 19 team, nation-wide conference is manageble, sustainable and a positive thing for IU and college sports overall? Any chance this is the end and the conference will spend the next 10yrs assimilating the new members and creating a culture? No, next month will be Miami and then No Carolina and.....?

The Big Ten should tell FSU 'no', but of course that won't happen, because more is always better. 

[Home Jersey 6,379]

16 minutes ago, Hardwood83 said:

I have to disagree. The CFP isn't killing the ACC. Sure FSU got screwed, but leaving their conference doesn't fix that, it's just an excuse. 

What is the end game here for the B1G and conference expansion? Sincere question- is the goal simply mindlessly gathering as many valuable properties as possible (like a hoarder) or is there a plan to make sense of this at some point? I want to believe there is, but circumstances tell me otherwise. This isn't some inevitable progress, it's just mania for it's own sake. 

Can someone explain to me how a 19 team, nation-wide conference is manageble, sustainable and a positive thing for IU and college sports overall? Any chance this is the end and the conference will spend the next 10yrs assimilating the new members and creating a culture? No, next month will be Miami and then No Carolina and.....?

The Big Ten should tell FSU 'no', but of course that won't happen, because more is always better. 

I honestly have no clue how this all shakes out, but it would be kinda hilarious for all these schools to just split into two super conferences and everything comes full circle where they split into regional divisions and just have a playoff format amongst themselves, then the two super conference winners play each other.... and they basically just cut out the NCAA to govern themselves.

Lol. Don't know if that's realistic at all but it would be pretty funny... and help manage costs/bring back historic rivalries!

[J34 1,472]

49 minutes ago, Hardwood83 said:

I have to disagree. The CFP isn't killing the ACC. Sure FSU got screwed, but leaving their conference doesn't fix that, it's just an excuse. 

What is the end game here for the B1G and conference expansion? Sincere question- is the goal simply mindlessly gathering as many valuable properties as possible (like a hoarder) or is there a plan to make sense of this at some point? I want to believe there is, but circumstances tell me otherwise. This isn't some inevitable progress, it's just mania for it's own sake. 

Can someone explain to me how a 19 team, nation-wide conference is manageble, sustainable and a positive thing for IU and college sports overall? Any chance this is the end and the conference will spend the next 10yrs assimilating the new members and creating a culture? No, next month will be Miami and then No Carolina and.....?

The Big Ten should tell FSU 'no', but of course that won't happen, because more is always better. 

So much for cutting down on our carbon emissions.lol

[go iu bb 5,436]

2 hours ago, Hardwood83 said:

I have to disagree. The CFP isn't killing the ACC. Sure FSU got screwed, but leaving their conference doesn't fix that, it's just an excuse. 

What is the end game here for the B1G and conference expansion? Sincere question- is the goal simply mindlessly gathering as many valuable properties as possible (like a hoarder) or is there a plan to make sense of this at some point? I want to believe there is, but circumstances tell me otherwise. This isn't some inevitable progress, it's just mania for it's own sake. 

Can someone explain to me how a 19 team, nation-wide conference is manageble, sustainable and a positive thing for IU and college sports overall? Any chance this is the end and the conference will spend the next 10yrs assimilating the new members and creating a culture? No, next month will be Miami and then No Carolina and.....?

The Big Ten should tell FSU 'no', but of course that won't happen, because more is always better. 

This alone wouldn't be the reason that FSU leaves (if they do),  but would certainly be the last straw that makes it happen. This shows how little value staying in the ACC has: less money from TV contracts and the wins mean less than in the B1G, $EC, and Big 12. Even the expanded playoff starting next year will be heavily populated by schools from those 3 conferences. When it's a question between a school from those conferences and the ACC, the ACC will continue to lose out.

If the B1G adds them, they would likely also add at least 1 other school from the ACC.

[OliviaPope40 6,401]

Looks like Jayden Daniels will end up with the Heisman. 

[Hovadipo 54,771]

My Heisman will be playing in the CFP. The voters’ Heisman will be playing in whatever they renamed the Outback Bowl. 
 

#NotMyHeisman

[Josh 12,518]

The SEC had a down year.  But we better put one of their teams in the playoffs and make one of their players the Heisman winner!

Yuck.

[Rico 2,979]

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