New Coach Salary And Criteria...$5 million?

[Feathery]

Was looking at coaching salaries...

http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/mens-basketball/coach/

For IU to get a top guy currently in college or Brad Stevens, it looks like $5,000,000 a year base salary should do the trick, (edit: $5 mil should be the starting point). Besides Cal, Self, Pitino, and Coack K, $5 million is well above what the rest of the coaches make. Add in fertile recruiting grounds and new/remodeled facilities and it's a prime job. Doesn't matter what the roster would look like year 1. Though get a great coach and I think the recruits stay and minimal losses to transfers.

IU should have that in their budget with all the BTN money and increase attendance to football. It's the flagship program of Indiana Athletics. Pay the big bucks and let's make a statement.

So what's the criteria? Is it just NCAA tourney success? Conference success? Both? What do you guys think?

For me it's conference success. The NCAA is a crapshoot, but sustained conference success will lead to higher NCAA seeding and better opportunities for deep runs.

After doing some research and seeing what coaches are making. Here is my list of top 3 candidates. They have varying degrees of NCAA success, but are consistently at the top or towards the top of their conference.

1. Brad Stevens ($3.66 million currently) college win % of .772. Now he NBA experience which would raise his recruiting ability. 3 horizon league titles, 2 NCAA championship appearances, from Indiana. Never finished lower than 3rd in the horizon or A-10.

2. Sean Miller ($3.07million currently) he has a current win % of .774. He has 3 A-10 championships, 3 Pac12 championships, 1 A-10 tournament championship, 1 Pac12 tournament championship. 6 Sweet 16s and 4 Elite 8 appearances.

3. Gregg Marshall ($3.3 million currently) current buyout is only $500,000. Career win % of .715. He won the Big South conference 6 times, Big South tournament 7 times, Missouri Valley conference 3 times, and MVC tournament once. Finished outside the top 3 in conference 2 times in 17 years, those were his first 2 season at WSU. He has 1 final four and 1 sweet 16, while not great it's actually very good for the conference he is representing. I value conference success more than NCAA success.

What do you guys think? Any names you like better? If so, please state who, why, and some background on the coach. There are a lot of quality coaches out there.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

I had heard during all the rumblings end of last season that IU was willing to offer North of 5 million. Not sure if true though as nothing panned out. Source seemed legitimate.

[Feathery]

I had heard during all the rumblings end of last season that IU was willing to offer North of 5 million. Not sure if true though as nothing panned out. Source seemed legitimate.

I would think $5 million should be the minimum base salary. Add in bonuses, camps, etc. if they can go up on the base salary then that's even better for the prospects of getting a true elite coach. Offer Brad Stevens $5...no...how about $6....no..... How about $7. Basically make it happen if it's financially feasible.

[MartintheMopMan]

I had heard during all the rumblings end of last season that IU was willing to offer North of 5 million. Not sure if true though as nothing panned out. Source seemed legitimate.

It's a nice pay bump. It also happens to be almost exactly the Harbaugh deal. 3.5 to 5.

I'd also support a slightly lower base for massive achievement bonuses. Tony Bennett only makes like 2 million plus up to like 2 more in bonuses I think. I'd support 4 base + up to 2 or 2.5. If you don't win then you don't earn.

[Old Friend]

It's a nice pay bump. It also happens to be almost exactly the Harbaugh deal. 3.5 to 5.

I'd also support a slightly lower base for massive achievement bonuses. Tony Bennett only makes like 2 million plus up to like 2 more in bonuses I think. I'd support 4 base + up to 2 or 2.5. If you don't win then you don't earn.

I actually think Harbaugh is a good comparison.  Someone who coached successfully in the pros, but came back o college because he got his dream job.   I have no idea if he still feels this way or not, but at one time, Indiana was Brad Stevens' dream job.  So I have hope.

 

He is a one man list until he isn't.  As I've said before, every move Indiana makes should depend on whether or not he would come if the job were available.  He says he will, we act appropriately.  Crean finishes the season, we wait until April 10th or so to let him walk, see what the Celtics do in the post-season, and hire Brad when we can. And I'd give him $8 million a year for 10 years.  At the end of the day, that's chump change if Indiana wins like I think they would under him.  Meaning, he's worth far more than that to re-build the brand. 

 

He says no?  Then we move on to other options, and both Miller and Marshall are good ones.  I don't know that Sean Miller leaves Arizona for Indiana, though.  I wouldn't mind taking a shot at a Keith Smart or Randy Wittman.  I do know we need someone who understands what Indiana basketball is all about; and though I know some disagree, it is NOT spending $700k on recruiting so we can go get east coast guys who do NOT understand.    We need at least one "IU guy" involved at a high level, or we risk repeating the last 15 years.   That's my two cents.

[southernindianahoosier]

50 million for 5 years.

[Bailey7878]

Are we

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[Bailey7878]

Keeping Fred glass out of this I hope?

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[MartintheMopMan]

Keeping Fred glass out of this I hope?

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Like I asked in the other thread, why exactly do we think Glass and Crean are attached at the hip?

[MikeRoberts]

Make him the highest paid coach in the world, both college and NBA. That should get him and it will make the statement that we aren't F'ing around anymore

[MartintheMopMan]

Make him the highest paid coach in the world, both college and NBA. That should get him and it will make the statement that we aren't F'ing around anymore

If we were paying Gregg Popovich money, why not just get Gregg Popovich?

[MikeRoberts]

If we were paying Gregg Popovich money, why not just get Gregg Popovich?

gregg popovich is a great basketball mind and leader but is a mystery at the college level. Basketball would translate but what about recruiting? Big if

[Walking Boot of Doom]

gregg popovich is a great basketball mind and leader but is a mystery at the college level. Basketball would translate but what about recruiting? Big if

Is recruiting really that scary? Everyone always says that we just need a basketball mind for a coach and he can just recruit the state and build a team.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Is recruiting really that scary? Everyone always says that we just need a basketball mind for a coach and he can just recruit the state and build a team.

thats not what I say. Need a basketball savant and talent, although a great coach goes a long way.

[biteoftheapple]

I am all for Stevens, we should do all we can to get him. But, I believe he will be with the Celtics for the length of his contract, if no longer. We have to have other options. And, I do not care for Randy Wittman. His career winning pct is .396.

[MikeRoberts]

As good as a coach and leader pop is, he needs some pieces and he would have to be able to recruit those pieces. He might but that is an unknown

[Alford Bailey]

I like the $5 million number. Feel confident it would get us a guy to put IU back near the top. No as confident the University would pay that, though.

[MikeRoberts]

I like the $5 million number. Feel confident it would get us a guy to put IU back near the top. No as confident the University would pay that, though.

if an alumn with direction donated it with that specific earmark...

[Alford Bailey]

if an alumn with direction donated it with that specific earmark...

Yes, and honestly we probably need some big time boosters involved to get the ball rolling...

[MartintheMopMan]

gregg popovich is a great basketball mind and leader but is a mystery at the college level. Basketball would translate but what about recruiting? Big if

Great basketball mind really undersells him. And he has some D3 coaching experience. He built a winning program out of absolutely nothing.

And when he knew he could do better he took a season off to be an assistant coach to refine his skills. So he's willing to learn at least.

Plus he's an Indiana native!

But, is there anything that makes you think he couldn't recruit or just not having seen him recruit? What player in their right mind wouldn't go play for him?

I mean, don't get it twisted. There is NO way he is going to be our coach in any timeline. But, if he was he would be hanging banners at the end of his second season.