Old Friend Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 I mean..... saying Cameron is a far better thrower doesn't really mean much of anything, Zander still can't really throw the ball consistently at a FBS level. Also, if anything last year showed how important Sudfeld is to the offense, Coleman (who is considerably better than Howard) couldn't lift the team to anything last year. You're making the argument for defense, but outside of the Wake, whose offense is just awful, game and parts of the Ohio State game there is nothing that says our defense has taken the step that we can win without Sudfeld. I'm not saying Howard isn't a good running back, but just looking at the numbers doesn't even come close to doing service to what Coleman did last season. Howard has had a competent QB the whole time, played against nothing but awful defenses, and had an offensive line that is just one year more mature than Coleman's. Not to even really get into the whole eye test stuff, there isn't really an argument to be made that Howard has anywhere near the explosiveness that Coleman has/d Howard is very different than Coleman, and he's not as explosive. But, he's more powerful and moves the pile better than Coleman. Like I said, they're different. Howard was the #6 RB in the country last season and was #2 in the country when he got hurt, so he's not THAT far off and I think many under-value him. Guy's averaging 6 yards per carry and had 709 yards in basically 4 games; plus he's averaging 10 yards per reception. And, he's averaging 7 yards per carry when we're pinned back inside our own 10 yard line. That's stout. Coleman is and was far more explosive, but Indiana's running game is far better when Howard's in the game, and we're a very different team without him. Because of the way we play, I think he's equally important to Sudfeld. I hope both can go today. Quote
VO5 Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 When it comes to importance, it's sudfeld over Howard and it's not really close. Howard wouldn't be getting those numbers with Zander or Cameron at qb, and while he didn't play much against OSU, the times he did run weren't very impressive. Don't get me wrong, I love Howard, but without suds we're not even close to a bowl team. MartintheMopMan and Hovadipo 2 Quote
Bobman1 Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 These are the games that Bowl teams win. Class of '66 Old Fart, Hovadipo and Naturalhoosier 3 Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 Home game. Homecoming. A bad Buttgers team. And we worried we will lose. Naturalhoosier 1 Quote
Hovadipo Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 [attachment=2740:ImageUploadedByBtownBanners1445089268.658119.jpg] I always like looking at these comparisons. Shoutout to the Yahoo Sports app, which is better than the ESPN scores app in every way imaginable. Naturalhoosier 1 Quote
KingPG21 Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 Howard is very different than Coleman, and he's not as explosive. But, he's more powerful and moves the pile better than Coleman. Like I said, they're different. Howard was the #6 RB in the country last season and was #2 in the country when he got hurt, so he's not THAT far off and I think many under-value him. Guy's averaging 6 yards per carry and had 709 yards in basically 4 games; plus he's averaging 10 yards per reception. And, he's averaging 7 yards per carry when we're pinned back inside our own 10 yard line. That's stout. Coleman is and was far more explosive, but Indiana's running game is far better when Howard's in the game, and we're a very different team without him. Because of the way we play, I think he's equally important to Sudfeld. I hope both can go today. Well yeah, Howard>>>>>Redding. I guess I'm probably just biased towards Coleman because even when he was a freshman I wanted him playing a lot, especially over Stephen Houston and that team wasn't ever going anywhere. The argument you make for the team being very different without Howard, I don't think I get why you don't apply the same philosophy to Sudfeld. No team in the country is scared of Cameron, or Diamont, or Covington. We saw that last year when teams could stack the box with 9 guys once Sudfeld went down. And Cameron looked to be better mechanically than Diamont..... but again that doesn't really mean much of anything. But yeah, obviously hope both can go. Quote
The Ola Depot Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 Well Zander reposted my video I made today so my days already made mdn82 and HoosierReb01 2 Quote
Class of '66 Old Fart Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 Home game. Homecoming. A bad Buttgers team. And we worried we will lose. "Because it's Indiana!" [Ever heard that one before?] Quote
HoosierReb01 Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 Indiana vs. Rutgers Full stats, slick on the team for each of their stats. Quote
Naturalhoosier Posted October 17, 2015 Author Posted October 17, 2015 Let's go Hoosiers. No more let downs this year! HoosierReb01 1 Quote
Miller'sTheMan Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 Lets hope Sudfeld plays. HoosierReb01 1 Quote
OliviaPope40 Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 All dressed and ready to go and the tickets are printed. Maybe today will be my day. Quote
HoosierReb01 Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 All dressed and ready to go and the tickets are printed. Maybe today will be my day. Whether its your day or not, is mostly about your attitude. Carpe Diem. Naturalhoosier 1 Quote
Miller'sTheMan Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 Looks like we're dawning the red pants again, I like it. Naturalhoosier 1 Quote
Hovadipo Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 Found a heads up penny in the parking lot. Go ahead and hang that dub! Naturalhoosier, HoosierReb01 and mdn82 3 Quote
LIHoosier Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 Love this homecoming poster! https://twitter.com/ZachOsterman/status/655047725185126400 + Purdoo-doo finished losing quickly enough so our game will start right on time. Quote
Hovadipo Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 Bit of a sparse crowd. (Jk NO ONE is here) Quote
HoosierReb01 Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 Indiana Football @HoosierFootball 1m1 minute ago A look at the helmets today from your’s truly, @YoungAC88. #iufb #GoIU #LetsDigIn 0 retweets0 favorites Reply Retweet Favorite More Naturalhoosier 1 Quote
HoosierReb01 Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 Lets kick off a Buttgers (I like that name) kickdown. Napleshoosier 1 Quote
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