HoosierRob Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 If Sud doesn't get hurt last year, that would have been a bowl team, diamont wasn't close to being ready Quote
HoosierReb01 Posted May 5, 2015 Author Posted May 5, 2015 Funny. I get those who say that until we prove them wrong, we'll always be picked at the bottom. That makes sense. The ones who don't see improvements, don't get that. mamasa and Naturalhoosier 2 Quote
Dalton26 Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 If Sud doesn't get hurt last year, that would have been a bowl team, diamont wasn't close to being ready Sud was struggling before the injury. I think we still would've been better but unless he got his head out of his rear I don't think it would've made a huge difference. barrettballer 1 Quote
johnsoniu Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 Sud was struggling before the injury. I think we still would've been better but unless he got his head out of his rear I don't think it would've made a huge difference. Sudfeld had a QB rating of 126, Zander had a QB rating of 76. That is a huge difference. The learning curve with the new receivers was flattening out for Nate; when Zander had to take over it got as steep as could possibly be.If Wynn doesn't drop the TD pass, the Iowa game is 28-21 early in the second. Instead he drops it and two plays later Sudfeld's ( and our) season is over. barrettballer, ThompsonHoosier and HoosierReb01 3 Quote
Bobman1 Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 Now with te new bowls, 82 teams out of 127 make a bowl. Let's hope we're not in the bottom 45 Quote
IU Hoosier41 Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 [attachment=2110:ImageUploadedByBtownBanners1430877599.390486.jpg] Odds are improving lol Walking Boot of Doom 1 Quote
HoosierAloha Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 Now with te new bowls, 82 teams out of 127 make a bowl. Let's hope we're not in the bottom 45 New rally cry: Don't be in the bottom 45! I like it. It seems possible. Josh, Bobman1 and Stuhoo 3 Quote
323SGrant Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 ImageUploadedByBtownBanners1430877599.390486.jpg Odds are improving lol Good. We need all the help we can get for IU Football! Even with Sud, I believe we lost to Bowling Green last year. That's got to stop. Quote
Dalton26 Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 Sudfeld had a QB rating of 126, Zander had a QB rating of 76. That is a huge difference. The learning curve with the new receivers was flattening out for Nate; when Zander had to take over it got as steep as could possibly be.If Wynn doesn't drop the TD pass, the Iowa game is 28-21 early in the second. Instead he drops it and two plays later Sudfeld's ( and our) season is over.Like I said we would've been better but I don't think with Sudfeld we would've made a bowl. He still struggled early and got half of his touchdowns in a single game against NT. He did nothing up to that point that inspired confidence. Heck everyone on here was talking about how bad he was playing. So I don't understand where all the "if we had Sud" comments are coming from. I think we would've been better off if Tre had stayed. Quote
Banksyrules Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 What progress. Easier schedule fewer wins. Normally I view creanapoligist as a naive poster but he's right in this regard. The rebuilding process takes a while in most football programs but each year they seem to make some progression. I think we are developing our defense nicely. I think this is the year we go to a bowl . Quote
Brass Cannon Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 I'm sorry but I don't consider going from the worst of all time to merely bad progress. And our offense has some huge question marks. Quote
ThompsonHoosier Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 I'm sorry but I don't consider going from the worst of all time to merely bad progress. And our offense has some huge question marks. So you want us to go from worst of all time to beating powerhouses and winning championships in a few seasons? Quote
HoosierReb01 Posted May 6, 2015 Author Posted May 6, 2015 So you want us to go from worst of all time to beating powerhouses and winning championships in a few seasons? Yes, and I want Rainbow stew and free Bubble Up also. And a black unicorn, 'cause that would just be freaking cool! mamasa, Bobman1 and Naturalhoosier 3 Quote
Brass Cannon Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 So you want us to go from worst of all time to beating powerhouses and winning championships in a few seasons? No but I don't think being horrible 4 straight years is indicative of the ability to get it done. Quote
Walking Boot of Doom Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 Normally I view creanapoligist as a naive poster but he's right in this regard. The rebuilding process takes a while in most football programs but each year they seem to make some progression. I think we are developing our defense nicely. I think this is the year we go to a bowl . Thanks for your opinion Dalton26 and mamasa 2 Quote
RBB89 Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 @Brass Cannon You are trying WAY too hard to discredit Wilson and the progress he has made. Did he steal your girlfriend or something? And we didn't play a cakewalk schedule last year, I have no idea where that's coming from. Also, do you understand what gimmick team actually means? Running a no huddle isn't a gimmick. Actually, most of last year we just handed it off to Tevin and ran through teams. Naturalhoosier, Walking Boot of Doom, HoosierAloha and 4 others 7 Quote
Brass Cannon Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 Lol I'm not trying to discredit him. He's done that his own letting Bill Lynch field consistently better teams. And no a team that tries to outscore it's opponents without offering anything remotely in the defensive category is a gimmick. And just remember our D will still suck but we don't have Coleman anymore. Statistically Wilson's best team has been worse than Lynch's worst. Yeah sorta says it all Quote
Bobman1 Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 How is our schedule getting easier? Last year we had to play Ohio State and Missouri. The Nat'l champion and SEC runner up. Quote
Brass Cannon Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 Our SOS was 62nd last year, back from 61 previously. That was up drastically from 76th the year before that. But just a comparison of Lynch and Wilson(BTW I was wrong Wilson has played a slightly less laughable schedule than Lynch. To lazy to dig out just the OoC games, perhaps thats the stat I had heard being easier compared to Lynch) These are overall ranks of College Football(Didn't want to use raw numbers because changes offenses and defenses and what not Wilson has had a 7 spot harder schedule than Lynch. 65.75 versus 72.75 Wilson has had a 8.75 spot better offense than Lynch. 63.5 versus 72.25 Lynch has a 23 spot better defense than Wilson. 80 versus 103 Lynch also won 4 more games, 1 more per year. So its pretty simple if Lynch wasn't good enough, then Wilson is far from good enough. The one year we had a respectable offense it was at the cost of having the worst defense in Big Ten History. And Wilson has yet to have a respectable defense to see what that would do to the offense. Theres no progress when one side of the ball is a complete joke. Progress is consistently getting better each year. Psst thats what Lynch did, yet as I already stated thats not good enough. Quote
barrettballer Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 We are clearly getting better as a program under CKW. Our recruiting classes are better, putting guys in the pros, and CKW runs a fantastic offense that works against most teams when we have a QB that's not a true freshman. The defense will come, but it was hard to have a good defense when Mallory can't even teach a kid to do a basic tackle. Give CKW one more year, if there is no bowl this year then you can rip into him all you want. But it's impossible to sit there and say our teams aren't any better under CKW then they were under Lynch. johnsoniu, Naturalhoosier and HoosierReb01 3 Quote
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