Indiana won't be Indiana until it wants to be Indiana

[BlueDevil 9,251]

A tie? Yeah, we backed into what we got!

Beat OSU at home and you win it. A tie? I'm sick and tired of settling.

Yeah, in my opinion we didn't win it. And I forgot to mention. Going out in the sweet sixteen, not winning the B1G tournament, getting our ass kicked on senior night by a team that we'd just beaten on the roada few weeks earlier? We did all that with two of the top four picks in the NBA lottery that year and another kid that was an MCDAA.

But they won it outright.... Am I missing something here?

[shortspacequickness 1,034]

A tie? Yeah, we backed into what we got!

Beat OSU at home and you win it. A tie? I'm sick and tired of settling.

Yeah, in my opinion we didn't win it. And I forgot to mention. Going out in the sweet sixteen, not winning the B1G tournament, getting our ass kicked on senior night by a team that we'd just beaten on the roada few weeks earlier? We did all that with two of the top four picks in the NBA lottery that year and another kid that was an MCDAA.

Please stop. This is so tired. They sure didn't play like top picks against Syracuse.

[jonz44 814]

Sorry, in my anger I mis-typed. They did win the regular season that year but in my opinion they easy under performed!

[jonz44 814]

But they won it outright.... Am I missing something here?

No you're not. I'm just totally pissed and mis-typed. Sorry. They did win the regular season but I just felt they under performed that year.

[BlueDevil 9,251]

No you're not. I'm just totally pissed and mis-typed. Sorry. They did win the regular season but I just felt they under performed that year.

It's all good

[WayneFleekHoosier 49,545]

Please stop. This is so tired. They sure didn't play like top picks against Syracuse.

SSQ is right on this one. Our guys played awful. Including the lotto picks. Hard to really know who deserves the blame on this one. All of them, from head coach down.

BUT that loss is acceptable to me it's the results since then that bother me most. (Syracuse was a talented, good squad/underrated)

[southernindianahoosier 422]

No you're not. I'm just totally pissed and mis-typed. Sorry. They did win the regular season but I just felt they under performed that year.

Correct me if I'm wrong

2010-2011-under-performed
2011-2012-over-performed
2012-2013-under-achieved
2013-2014-under-performed
2014-2015- TBD

Is this normal at other schools? Serious question.

[jonz44 814]

Please stop. This is so tired. They sure didn't play like top picks against Syracuse.

Maybe they didn't but their performance to that point and since in other settings leads a person to believe they were/are pretty damn good! Didn't play like top picks? Might have had something to do with the positions they Were put in by their coach.

So tired? The one constant the last seven seasons is the head coach...and he certainly hasn't performed like he's worth 3.5 million a year!

[shortspacequickness 1,034]

SSQ is right on this one. Our guys played awful. Including the lotto picks. Hard to really know who deserves the blame on this one. All of them, from head coach down.

BUT that loss is acceptable to me it's the results since then that bother me most. (Syracuse was a talented, good squad/underrated)

#1 for a while until Southerland was suspended. Still irks me. He had all his papers written for him, and then came back and played in the tourney.

They better get hammered. We know they won't get anything... Sigh.

[shortspacequickness 1,034]

Correct me if I'm wrong

2010-2011-under-performed
2011-2012-over-performed
2012-2013-under-achieved
2013-2014-under-performed
2014-2015- TBD

Is this normal at other schools? Serious question.

Look at Florida since two titles.

[jonz44 814]

Correct me if I'm wrong

2010-2011-under-performed
2011-2012-over-performed
2012-2013-under-achieved
2013-2014-under-performed
2014-2015- TBD

Is this normal at other schools? Serious question.

Not at the schools we say we want to compete with!

[BlueDevil 9,251]

Correct me if I'm wrong

2010-2011-under-performed
2011-2012-over-performed
2012-2013-under-achieved
2013-2014-under-performed
2014-2015- TBD

Is this normal at other schools? Serious question.

UNC UNC UNC!

[MikeRoberts 7,458]

I don't know who would want to replace Crean if the pressure is on that you must win a national title within 2-3 years. Tony Bennett knew better.

you make stuff up. Where do you get national championship and 2-3 years stuff. Helps your agenda though

[BGleas 8,100]

1 Final Four and 3 other Elite 8's?

Look at Florida since two titles.

[shortspacequickness 1,034]

you make stuff up. Where do you get national championship and 2-3 years stuff. Helps your agenda though

On Crean's third real team, people wanted to run him out of town. It seems that four years is too long.

[Big Bad Wolf 101]

Indiana stopped being indiana after they fired Knight. They have been nothing but timid and scared ever since. I've honestly never seen a school so scared, timid and hesitant before. It's like they are still in the fog of Knights firing.

Mike Davis, Kelvin Sampson and Tom Crean were puny, lazy hires.

Indiana won't be indiana again until they stop messing around and do what Michigan, Ohio State, Alabama football did and Kentucky, Louisville, North Carolina Basketball did.

[shortspacequickness 1,034]

1 Final Four and 3 other Elite 8's?

and some NIT's.

[WayneFleekHoosier 49,545]

Indiana stopped being indiana after they fired Knight. They have been nothing but timid and scared ever since. I've honestly never seen a school so scared, timid and hesitant before. It's like they are still in the fog of Knights firing.

Mike Davis, Kelvin Sampson and Tom Crean were puny, lazy hires.

Indiana won't be indiana again until they stop messing around and do what Michigan, Ohio State, Alabama football did and Kentucky, Louisville, North Carolina Basketball did.

may be true.

[BlueDevil 9,251]

Indiana stopped being indiana after they fired Knight. They have been nothing but timid and scared ever since. I've honestly never seen a school so scared, timid and hesitant before. It's like they are still in the fog of Knights firing.

Mike Davis, Kelvin Sampson and Tom Crean were puny, lazy hires.

Indiana won't be indiana again until they stop messing around and do what Michigan, Ohio State, Alabama football did and Kentucky, Louisville, North Carolina Basketball did.

Crean was an outstanding hire. C'mon now. He did what he was brought here to do. I just feel he may not be the guy to lead the program going forward that's all.

[shortspacequickness 1,034]

Crean was an outstanding hire. C'mon now. He did what he was brought here to do. I just feel he may not be the guy to lead the program going forward that's all.

This is the question that no one has the answer to, but some pretend to know. It's funny to me because he has demonstrated the ability to achieve everything we all want.

He came in here and after getting through the fat, had a title level team by year 5. He can't do it again?