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I told everyone on this board how that loss will kill IU and looks like i ciuld well on the way of being right. There was absolutely no excuse to lose that game. So many on here saying it wasn't a bad loss....yes it was.

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your right there was no excuse to lose that game. It will be a bad loss in fans eyes but in the committee eyes( the only ones that matter) , if Fort Wayne wins there league like they did last year and are projected to do this year they will be in the top 75 in rpi which will not be considered a bad loss. As long as that would be iu's worst loss it won't effect them. Examples from previous years. Kansas lost to tcu ( rpi +200 on the road) and still got a 1 seed, last year they lost to Oklahoma st on the road(+150 rpi) and still got a 1 seed)

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You're allowed one "wtf loss" per year in college basketball if you're trying to compete for a 1 seed.

As long as we don't go dropping games at Rutgers or at home to Penn State, I can live with the IPFW loss.

It's not going to hurt us that much.

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You're allowed one "wtf loss" per year in college basketball if you're trying to compete for a 1 seed.

As long as we don't go dropping games at Rutgers or at home to Penn State, I can live with the IPFW loss.

It's not going to hurt us that much.


Yep, minimizing multiple +100 rpi loses is a key to a higher seed. Iu proved that last year. They had the wins last year to warrant a 3 or 4 seed however the losses to penn state(121), unlv(148), and wake(154) were the reason they won the big 10 regular season and ended up with a 5 seed


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The B1G is struggling overall. Where are the marquee wins? The bad losses? O$U losing to FAU, Iowa losing to everyone, MSU not getting let OOC wins, etc. I can see the committee punishing the top teams again.


The B1G had terrible OOC loses last year as well. Marquee wins would be @purdue, @wisky, wisky, Purdue, Michigan st. It's still early but 13 of 14 B1G teams are in the Ken Pom top 100( 1 guess which school isn't)


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The B1G had terrible OOC loses last year as well. Marquee wins would be @purdue, @wisky, wisky, Purdue, Michigan st. It's still early but 13 of 14 B1G teams are in the Ken Pom top 100( 1 guess which school isn't)


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Guess would be Rutger.

I was speaking more to the marquee wins in the OOC schedule for the B1G. IU has the wins but the others just aren't there.

Wins
IU - KU, UNC
Wiscy - Syracuse
pu - ASU, possible ND
MSU - Wichita St
Michigan - Marquette, SMU, Texas
Maryland - OK St., G'town
O$U - Providence

That's not a lot of good wins for the entire conference. There are a few more opportunities out there but not a lot. I'm guessing the B1G will be the 4th or 5th rated conference begins the ACC, Big East, PAC12, and maybe Big 12.

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Guess would be Rutger.

I was speaking more to the marquee wins in the OOC schedule for the B1G. IU has the wins but the others just aren't there.

Wins

IU - KU, UNC

Wiscy - Syracuse

pu - ASU, possible ND

MSU - Wichita St

Michigan - Marquette, SMU, Texas

Maryland - OK St., G'town

O$U - Providence

That's not a lot of good wins for the entire conference. There are a few more opportunities out there but not a lot. I'm guessing the B1G will be the 4th or 5th rated conference begins the ACC, Big East, PAC12, and maybe Big 12.

yeah not a lot there in the non conference I was just pointing out iu would have plenty of marquee wins chances in the B1G regardless of it having a bad OOC. Committee judges each team individually on their team sheets they won't penalize iu because other B1G teams couldn't win in the OOC or at least that has what the committee chair has said in the past

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3 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

yeah not a lot there in the non conference I was just pointing out iu would have plenty of marquee wins chances in the B1G regardless of it having a bad OOC. Committee judges each team individually on their team sheets they won't penalize iu because other B1G teams couldn't win in the OOC or at least that has what the committee chair has said in the past

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Right, but it would be easier to have good to great wins in conference if the B1G won more marquee OOC wins.  As it stands there are only 2, maybe 3, teams and 4-5 opportunities for great wins in conference play.  Good wins against possible tourney teams would be limited as well with @Maryland, @O$U, and Michigan (x2).  The B1G, as a whole, is down.  The conference will provide plenty of opportunities for top 100 wins but not the marquee wins that other conference teams will have.

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Right, but it would be easier to have good to great wins in conference if the B1G won more marquee OOC wins.  As it stands there are only 2, maybe 3, teams and 4-5 opportunities for great wins in conference play.  Good wins against possible tourney teams would be limited as well with @Maryland, @O$U, and Michigan (x2).  The B1G, as a whole, is down.  The conference will provide plenty of opportunities for top 100 wins but not the marquee wins that other conference teams will have.


And that would effect the B1G teams that don't already have a couple of big wins more than it would iu. As of now wisky is Ken Pom (8)and we would play them 2 (Ken Pom loves him some wisky), Purdue (12) we play them 2 times, Michigan(26) and we play them 2 times. Now these numbers will change overtime and the committee will use rpi( rpi can't be trusted this early it needs time for the numbers to work themselves out). Iu just needs to avoid multiple +100 L's and in my opinion if they win they games they are supposed to at home in the B1G they will get a good seed


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10 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:


And that would effect the B1G teams that don't already have a couple of big wins more than it would iu. As of now wisky is Ken Pom (8)and we would play them 2 (Ken Pom loves him some wisky), Purdue (12) we play them 2 times, Michigan(26) and we play them 2 times. Now these numbers will change overtime and the committee will use rpi( rpi can't be trusted this early it needs time for the numbers to work themselves out). Iu just needs to avoid multiple +100 L's and in my opinion if they win they games they are supposed to at home in the B1G they will get a good seed


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As of now, any loss to the say, bottom three in the conference will oust us from a 1 seed. Unless extenuating circumstances happen.

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