WayneFleekHoosier Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 Cheating. Not close No doubt! I agree fully. Both guys pretty loathsome. BtownBanner6 and Dalton26 2 Quote
Dalton26 Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 Cheating. Not close Couldn't agree more. Nice to see others that still have some morals too. WayneFleekHoosier, Bobman1 and Crimson and Cream 3 Quote
HoosierAloha Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 Oh DeAngelo Russell. He posted video conversation of Nick Young discussing cheating on Iggy Azalea. What's worse, cheating or breaking bro code? Cheating but breaking the bro code could effect Russell's career more. I wouldn't want him anywhere near my locker room. Bobman1, Defenserocks28, WayneFleekHoosier and 2 others 5 Quote
X-Hoosier Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 Are these fair penalties for these schools? UofL: Loss of 15 scholarships over 5 years. Post season ban for 2016-2017 season. A 15 game suspension for Pitino if they believe he didn't know. A full season ban if they believe he did know. A lifetime ban for McGhee. Vacated wins in years with players involved. UNC: A loss of all scholarships for 5 years. Vacated wins for games with players involved. 3 years post season ban. 20 game suspension for Roy Williams. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Dalton26 Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 Are these fair penalties for these schools? UofL: Loss of 15 scholarships over 5 years. Post season ban for 2016-2017 season. A 15 game suspension for Pitino if they believe he didn't know. A full season ban if they believe he did know. A lifetime ban for McGhee. Vacated wins in years with players involved. UNC: A loss of all scholarships for 5 years. Vacated wins for games with players involved. 3 years post season ban. 20 game suspension for Roy Williams. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using BtownBanners mobile app Not fair at all. The penalties are far too similar for my liking. UNC should get it twice as bad as UofL in my opinion. ALASKA HOOSIER 1 Quote
Defenserocks28 Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 10 minutes ago, dalton26 said: Not fair at all. The penalties are far too similar for my liking. UNC should get it twice as bad as UofL in my opinion. I don't know if I'd say those penalties are similar. Loss of ALL scholarships AND a 3 year postseason ban would kill UNC for close to a decade. Louisville would be able to bounce back in a year or two. ALASKA HOOSIER 1 Quote
KB0 Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 42 minutes ago, X-Hoosier said: Are these fair penalties for these schools? UofL: Loss of 15 scholarships over 5 years. Post season ban for 2016-2017 season. A 15 game suspension for Pitino if they believe he didn't know. A full season ban if they believe he did know. A lifetime ban for McGhee. Vacated wins in years with players involved. UNC: A loss of all scholarships for 5 years. Vacated wins for games with players involved. 3 years post season ban. 20 game suspension for Roy Williams. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using BtownBanners mobile app I don't know if you're being realistic, but those would both be the largest punishments the NCAA has ever handed out for Men's Basketball and by a long shot (I believe). I despise UNC, that punishment is the equivalent of the death penalty SMU received. The NCAA never wants to give out another death penalty. Quote
Dalton26 Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 I don't know if I'd say those penalties are similar. Loss of ALL scholarships AND a 3 year postseason ban would kill UNC for close to a decade. Louisville would be able to bounce back in a year or two. Completely looked past the all scholarships part. The 3 yr postseason ban should be worse because when it's all said and done UofL will have 2 years. UNC should get nothing short of the death penalty although there's no chance the NCAA would ever do that to them. Alford Bailey, Class of '66 Old Fart, IUsafety and 1 other 4 Quote
HoosierAloha Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 I think a lot of people, myself included, will be disappointed in UNC's penalty. They will defend their program by saying it was a university even though more than half the students were athletes. I'm guessing Ol Roy will get about a 9 game suspension, maybe a loss of a few scholarships for a few years, some vacates wins (non tourney and they'll keep their stained titles), and maybe a few recruiting sanctions. On similar note, if they actually punished all the cheating programs properly college basketball would be boring for a few years. Not saying cheating is okay, I personally think it gives an uneven playing field, but college basketball and football is so dirty. Alford Bailey, MartintheMopMan and Dalton26 3 Quote
MartintheMopMan Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 Are these fair penalties for these schools? UofL: Loss of 15 scholarships over 5 years. Post season ban for 2016-2017 season. A 15 game suspension for Pitino if they believe he didn't know. A full season ban if they believe he did know. A lifetime ban for McGhee. Vacated wins in years with players involved. UNC: A loss of all scholarships for 5 years. Vacated wins for games with players involved. 3 years post season ban. 20 game suspension for Roy Williams. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using BtownBanners mobile app Since the JB suspension of 9 games was the longest in history, I'd say the suspensions don't make sense. They're also so long that you might as well slap a year or two of show-cause on them. 20 games is too many to be meaningful. If either coach knew then you have to issue a show-cause not a suspension. Loss of all scholarships is the death penalty. They may be semantically different, but that is turning the whole program off for those years. 3 scholarships a year is likely high for Louisville too unless more comes out. They'll be hit harder with recruiting restrictions not loss of scholarships. Either way, I do not foresee UNCBB getting hit that hard, especially after this Tourney. Blame will be pushed onto football and they'll decimate an already crappy program. Quote
Class of '66 Old Fart Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 Iowa losing 4 senior starters to graduation and a really thin bench this past year. Now they're losing redshirt freshman Brandon Hutton 6'5" small forward from Chicago who's going to transfer. Quote
HoosierAloha Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 Iowa losing 4 senior starters to graduation and a really thin bench this past year. Now they're losing redshirt freshman Brandon Hutton 6'5" small forward from Chicago who's going to transfer. Saw Hammond (?) from Nebrasketball is transferring as well. Has there been this many B1G transfers in the past? It seems like almost every team is losing a few players to transfer or das boot (Minny, Ill). colonel06 1 Quote
biteoftheapple Posted March 31, 2016 Posted March 31, 2016 Valentine was voted AP player of the year. He won by 3 votes over Hield. Quote
Stuhoo Posted March 31, 2016 Posted March 31, 2016 20 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said: PUke losing another one. Purdue is running out of scholly players. Including the incoming freshman, they have nine for next year; eight if Swanigan goes. Class of '66 Old Fart and HoosierAloha 2 Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted March 31, 2016 Posted March 31, 2016 Kendall Stephens is a pretty decent player. Lost his mojo though and never fully gained it back. Quote
Class of '66 Old Fart Posted March 31, 2016 Posted March 31, 2016 And Iowa gets bit again: IOWA CITY, Iowa (AP) — Iowa says freshman guard Andrew Fleming has been released from his scholarship so he can transfer to another school. Fleming averaged 2.2 points and one assist in 11 games last season. Fleming says he is seeking a "better situation" for his college career. The 6-foot-5 native of Nashville, Tenn., by way of Oak Hill Academy, came to Iowa as part of a five-player freshman class, but he had trouble getting on the floor. Now 40 percent of that group is transferring, with the Wednesday news that Brandon Hutton is leaving, too. Alford Bailey 1 Quote
theriverpilot Posted March 31, 2016 Posted March 31, 2016 And Iowa gets bit again: IOWA CITY, Iowa (AP) — Iowa says freshman guard Andrew Fleming has been released from his scholarship so he can transfer to another school. Fleming averaged 2.2 points and one assist in 11 games last season. Fleming says he is seeking a "better situation" for his college career. The 6-foot-5 native of Nashville, Tenn., by way of Oak Hill Academy, came to Iowa as part of a five-player freshman class, but he had trouble getting on the floor. Now 40 percent of that group is transferring, with the Wednesday news that Brandon Hutton is leaving, too. 40%? Wow! Quote
LIHoosier Posted March 31, 2016 Posted March 31, 2016 This is so NCAA... http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/15104952/ncaa-errantly-told-south-carolina-gamecocks-were-tourney They sent texts to congratulate the 68 teams that were put in the NCAA tournament. Instead of sending congratulations to USC, they sent one to the other USC, South Carolina. theriverpilot, IUsafety, ALASKA HOOSIER and 2 others 5 Quote
MartintheMopMan Posted March 31, 2016 Posted March 31, 2016 Valpo and GW are bringing it. I am going to miss basketball so much. HoosierAloha 1 Quote
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