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1 minute ago, IU Scott said:

Just trying to point out that most teams go through the same problems that we have here at IU   MSU at one time had 15 turnovers and given up 12 offensive rebounds.  Does that sound similar to another team that we watch.

I understand that. It's easy to find individual games or even a stretch of games that matches what this team is going through. It's easy to throw out examples here and there. Michigan State, unlike a Rutger or Minny or Iowa, is someone we should compare ourselves to. The problem is when you extrapolate that a little you see consistent tourney appearances, wins in the tourney, and final fours. Reverse that and you see IU not making final four runs, let alone appearances. Does that make sense?

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1 minute ago, Hooserfan1901 said:

Northwestern up against MSU in Lansing, different dimension? Nope, just College Basketball

The difference between the top teams and bottom teams has never been smaller than it ever had. I would say the difference is that the top teams are not as good as they use to be.  Also the bottom teams are probably better than they use to be.

Posted
1 minute ago, IU Scott said:

The difference between the top teams and bottom teams has never been smaller than it ever had. I would say the difference is that the top teams are not as good as they use to be.  Also the bottom teams are probably better than they use to be.

Absolutely.  But there really would be no excuse for MSU losing at home to Northwestern without Nance.

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1 minute ago, brumdog45 said:

Absolutely.  But there really would be no excuse for MSU losing at home to Northwestern without Nance.

No doubt

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2 minutes ago, brumdog45 said:

Eh...little phantom foul on NW.

NW has gotten a favorable whistle. I thought for sure they would have called a foul on NW a few minutes ago on that MSU drive. They didn't, shocked(!), then called one on MSU on the rebound.

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5 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

The difference between the top teams and bottom teams has never been smaller than it ever had. I would say the difference is that the top teams are not as good as they use to be.  Also the bottom teams are probably better than they use to be.

Uhh... No. Northwestern is terrible. There is a massive distance between them and the top teams. Michigan State has just been playing with fire recently with close games. This one might finally get them. 

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