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Illinois has talent and bigs but Michigan made zero adjustments to stop them 2nd half. Illinois just drove and drove and drove and fed their big men and seemingly got fouled or a layup nearly every possession. Have to pack it in and force them to shoot outside. Shot just 1-11 from 3. Juwan Howard getting exposed a little these last few games.


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Was thinking today, how many teams do we think the big ten gets in to NCAA’s? My final standings look like: OSU, Michigan, Mich State, Maryland, Purdue, Indiana, Illinois, Penn State, Iowa, Wisco, with a slew of bottom feeders. Realistically, 9 of those teams will likely have an argument for a bit so it’ll be interesting to see how things shake out.


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Was thinking today, how many teams do we think the big ten gets in to NCAA’s? My final standings look like: OSU, Michigan, Mich State, Maryland, Purdue, Indiana, Illinois, Penn State, Iowa, Wisco, with a slew of bottom feeders. Realistically, 9 of those teams will likely have an argument for a bit so it’ll be interesting to see how things shake out.


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Ohio State, Michigan State, Michigan and Maryland are pretty likely. Penn State and Indiana probably have the best chances after that. Illinois right behind them. Iowa will likely be on the outside looking in. Wisconsin isn’t in the conversation.


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To date, Illinois looks better than Indiana, having defeated Michigan and losing to Maryland by 1 point at College Park.

Not really. In the selection committees eyes we have fairly equal tier wins and they have 3 losses. Their Michigan win is a tier 1 win at home. Their Maryland loss is a loss. I would much rather have what we have. 1 loss. If they could have turned that Miami or Maryland loss into a win I would have agreed. They are close though. They just will need wins when it comes time.


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47 minutes ago, mdn82 said:


Not really. In the selection committees eyes we have fairly equal tier wins and they have 3 losses. Their Michigan win is a tier 1 win at home. Their Maryland loss is a loss. I would much rather have what we have. 1 loss. If they could have turned that Miami or Maryland loss into a win I would have agreed. They are close though. They just will need wins when it comes time.


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Do all losses count the same? Honest question because I don't know. Do teirs play a role at all in the losses? Losing to a quad one team versus a quad two or whatever.

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9 minutes ago, Hollywood Mike Miranda said:

Do all losses count the same? Honest question because I don't know. Do teirs play a role at all in the losses? Losing to a quad one team versus a quad two or whatever.

Yes tiers play a role in losses. a Quad 1 loss is much different than a quad 4 loss. The old standards would call quad 3 and 4 losses as "bad losses". 

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Do all losses count the same? Honest question because I don't know. Do teirs play a role at all in the losses? Losing to a quad one team versus a quad two or whatever.

All losses are not the same. Use to be anything over 100 was considered a bad loss in eyes of committee. When they introduced the quad system they acknowledged that they weighted it to where they put more emphasis on winning on the road and made it to where they didn’t punish teams as much for losing on the road or neutral court. A quad 1 win is
1-30- for a home game
1-50- for a neutral court win
1-75- for a road win
What teams need to avoid is losing Quad 3 and 4 games at home. Those are resume killers for teams trying to earn a bid. Teams can overcome those losses but it’s a uphill battle


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To date, Illinois looks better than Indiana, having defeated Michigan and losing to Maryland by 1 point at College Park.

They also were down close to 30 at home to a Miami team that UConn blew out. Illinois needed OT at home to beat Nicholls. I would say overall IU has looked better to date in my opinion but it’s close


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You must not have watched IU's last two games or the Illinois versus Michigan and Illinois versus Maryland games. There is no question Illinois looked better than Indiana in the last two games. If Indiana plays against either of those Big Ten opponents like they did against Wisconsin (or even Connecticut), there will be many disappointed IU fans.

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All losses are not the same. Use to be anything over 100 was considered a bad loss in eyes of committee. When they introduced the quad system they acknowledged that they weighted it to where they put more emphasis on winning on the road and made it to where they didn’t punish teams as much for losing on the road or neutral court. A quad 1 win is
1-30- for a home game
1-50- for a neutral court win
1-75- for a road win
What teams need to avoid is losing Quad 3 and 4 games at home. Those are resume killers for teams trying to earn a bid. Teams can overcome those losses but it’s a uphill battle


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An @$$ kicking by any team is a bad loss. Losing by 30 is a lot different than by 5 or 10. Sane with winning. But the committee capped it at 10.


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