Hovadipo Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 58 minutes ago, jk34 said: So you're saying the 4's and 5's are less skilled in the post, but better on the perimeter? I don't see many 6'9 point guards winning championships nowadays either. There has always been star power, now there's the internet and social media. Bigger and stronger does not necessarily mean more athleticism. That’s actually *exactly* what it means. Quote
jk34 Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 17 minutes ago, Hovadipo said: That’s actually *exactly* what it means. So Shaq and Wilt were the best athletes to ever play the game? Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 So Shaq and Wilt were the best athletes to ever play the game?You could make that argument if you want. Especially Shaq. To be that large and that mobile and coordinated. The game has never really seen it. Especially prime Shaq. LeBron is probably the best “athlete” to play the game though. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app HoosierAloha 1 Quote
jk34 Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said: You could make that argument if you want. Especially Shaq. To be that large and that mobile and coordinated. The game has never really seen it. Especially prime Shaq. LeBron is probably the best “athlete” to play the game though. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app I remember seeing him in the McDonald's game. Got a rebound, took it coast to coast, and finished with a thunderous dunk. He was truly a specimen! That LSU team we beat was very talented. Thank goodness Dale Brown was coaching that team.lol hoosierdogg 1 Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 So you're saying the 4's and 5's are less skilled in the post, but better on the perimeter? I don't see many 6'9 point guards winning championships nowadays either. There has always been star power, now there's the internet and social media. Bigger and stronger does not necessarily mean more athleticism. Who says they are less skilled? Joel Embiid, Al Horford, LaMarcus Aldridge, Marc Gasol, Brook Lopez, Nikola Jokic, Nikola Vucevic, Demarcus Cousins(when healthy), Lauri Markkanen, Anthony Davis, Kristaps Porzingis, Blake Griffin, Karl Anthony Towns, Jaren Jackson, Marvin Bagley, Myles Turner, Domantas Sabonis, Deandre Ayton and plenty of others are good in the post but can also be trusted to post up and make a play. And you have your rim runners like Clint Capela, Jarrett Allen, DeAndre Jordan, Hassan Whiteside, Rudy Gobert and others. It’s Avery talented league. And the idea that good big men don’t exist is a massive myth. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 Released my Top 25 for CBB1. Duke(2)2. Louisville(3)3. Kansas(4)4. Michigan State(5)5. North Carolina(6)6. Maryland(7)7. Gonzaga(8)8. Ohio State(11)9. Virginia(9)10. Oregon(10)11. Kentucky(1)12. Texas Tech(14)13. Arizona(16)14. Seton Hall(15)15. Xavier(19)16. Auburn(20)17. Memphis(12)18. Tennessee(25)19. Texas(22)20. VCU(NR)21. Utah State(24)22. Villanova(13)23. Oklahoma(24)24. Colorado(NR)25. Indiana(NR)Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Alford Bailey 1 Quote
Uspshoosier Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 Released my Top 25 for CBB1. Duke(2)2. Louisville(3)3. Kansas(4)4. Michigan State(5)5. North Carolina(6)6. Maryland(7)7. Gonzaga(8)8. Ohio State(11)9. Virginia(9)10. Oregon(10)11. Kentucky(1)12. Texas Tech(14)13. Arizona(16)14. Seton Hall(15)15. Xavier(19)16. Auburn(20)17. Memphis(12)18. Tennessee(25)19. Texas(22)20. VCU(NR)21. Utah State(24)22. Villanova(13)23. Oklahoma(24)24. Colorado(NR)25. Indiana(NR)Sent from my iPhone using BtownBannersNo Vermont?Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 No Vermont?Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appNo Vermont or Liberty yet. But if both keep it up like expected, they’ll be there eventually. Liberty has two great chances against Vanderbilt and LSU. Candy isn’t a great win but for a school like Liberty, it is. Vermont has Virginia next, which if they can stay within 20, that’ll be good for them. They have Cincy as well which is winnable for them. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
HoosierFan1994 Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 There could be a really good game Sunday Night in the Bahamas tournament. Evansville and Liberty. Big mid-major matchup. Would be the championship of that tournament. Quote
Uspshoosier Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 No Vermont or Liberty yet. But if both keep it up like expected, they’ll be there eventually. Liberty has two great chances against Vanderbilt and LSU. Candy isn’t a great win but for a school like Liberty, it is. Vermont has Virginia next, which if they can stay within 20, that’ll be good for them. They have Cincy as well which is winnable for them. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appVermont has 2 top 150 Ken Pom road wins(Bucknell, St Bonaventure) and a top 100 Ken Pom road win against St Johns. Not world beaters but definitely better then some in your top 25. Colorado is a solid team Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app HoosierAloha 1 Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 Vermont has 2 top 150 Ken Pom road wins(Bucknell, St Bonaventure) and a top 100 Ken Pom road win against St Johns. Not world beaters but definitely better then some in your top 25. Colorado is a solid team Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appI don’t follow Kenpom. Or any single rating system because they all have too many flaws. Would rather use a composite rating system. Mainly based on opinion of where I feel teams stand. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 Indiana without a vote in the AP Poll. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners MikeRoberts 1 Quote
Napleshoosier Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 No votes! Not one. Hmm! #novotesforcupcakes. Guess we need to drop Fl St @26. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners MikeRoberts and ALASKA HOOSIER 2 Quote
Uspshoosier Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 I don’t follow Kenpom. Or any single rating system because they all have too many flaws. Would rather use a composite rating system. Mainly based on opinion of where I feel teams stand. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appWithout using any rating system. 3 road wins in the first 4 games of the season should be recognized by the AP in my opinion Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app HoosierAloha 1 Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 Without using any rating system. 3 road wins in the first 4 games of the season should be recognized by the AP in my opinion Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appI would say they should get votes. They are beating the same type of teams as everyone else. And we know Vermont is good because we’ve seen it the past few years. Vermont ended up getting 11 votes in the AP. Liberty got 4. Evansville got 43. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted November 19, 2019 Posted November 19, 2019 Watching Pitt vs Monmouth... Pitt is not a good team. At all. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Quote
Alford Bailey Posted November 19, 2019 Posted November 19, 2019 Why cant I take CCB too serious? Will Wade lands another 5 star Cameron Thomas. Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted November 19, 2019 Posted November 19, 2019 Why cant I take CCB too serious? Will Wade lands another 5 star Cameron Thomas.Look at Arizona, UNC, UK, Duke recruiting. We have to play the role of Cinderella. Works for Virginia and some others. It can work for us to an extent. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app ALASKA HOOSIER 1 Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted November 19, 2019 Posted November 19, 2019 Why cant I take CCB too serious? Will Wade lands another 5 star Cameron Thomas.But yeah, disheartening. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Ranger78 Posted November 19, 2019 Posted November 19, 2019 UK 62 Utah valley 58 6:20 left to go Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Quote
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