College Bball Thread

[Uspshoosier]

I said the NET was biased. Because it is towards P5 schools.


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Non majors are benefitting more from the NET then they would of been with the old RPI system


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[mdn82]

Haha joe talks about how the metrics used are biased and can’t be trusted.

But then says the eye test is the best metric. That’s a classic even for his standards


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Then tries arguing his stance further [emoji23].


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[IUc2016]

I said the NET was biased. Because it is towards P5 schools.


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68 teams make the NCAA tournament so I’ll use that as a measurement.

As of today the Net has 47 teams in its top 68 that are in the power 6 conference (includes Big East).

Kenpom has 54 of 68.

This does not include teams like Gonzaga, Wichita State, Memphis, Houston, and Cincinnati.

Also doesn’t include San Diego State who is NUMBER 3 in the NET at the moment.

And San Diego State is 32 on Kenpom.

Just some food for thought.


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[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

Non majors are benefitting more from the NET then they would of been with the old RPI system


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Are they benefiting from the NET or from P5 teams being worse?


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[RaceToTheTop]

19 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Purdue as a 7?


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Better than where Pom currently has Purdue (as #10 overall).  Pom carries preseason rankings too far into the regular season.

Basically Purdue has played 5 quality opponents -- Marquette, Texas, VCU, Florida State, and Virginia.  Won two of them, lost three.  But also threw in a fourth loss to Nebraska.  I think the 7 seed is more a projection of where he sees them being at the end of the year than where they are now.....although ridiculously enough, they are still receiving votes in the top 25.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

Better than where Pom currently has Purdue (as #10 overall).  Pom carries preseason rankings too far into the regular season.
Basically Purdue has played 5 quality opponents -- Marquette, Texas, VCU, Florida State, and Virginia.  Won two of them, lost three.  But also threw in a fourth loss to Nebraska.  I think the 7 seed is more a projection of where he sees them being at the end of the year than where they are now.....although ridiculously enough, they are still receiving votes in the top 25.

A loss is a loss. No positives about it.


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[Uspshoosier]

Are they benefiting from the NET or from P5 teams being worse?


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They are benefiting from the NET. Quad system allows them to get those Quad 1 and 2 wins in their conference that they cannot get from playing high major teams. Plus the quad system allows them to lose games on the road in their conference and not get penalized as much as the RPI penalized them. If the net was active back in the day Monmouth would of not got left out of the tournament like they did that one year even though they beat a bunch of high majors but lost a couple road games in conference


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[MoyeNeeded]

2 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

A loss is a loss. No positives about it.


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So then what is a win? Any positives with that? Doesn't seem so the way you described your thoughts against UConn and Nebraska.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

So then what is a win? Any positives with that? Doesn't seem so the way you described your thoughts against UConn and Nebraska.

From a fans perspective those games sucked. And there were plenty here who felt like the Nebraska game was a loss. I was not one of those.


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[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

They are benefiting from the NET. Quad system allows them to get those Quad 1 and 2 wins in their conference that they cannot get from playing high major teams. Plus the quad system allows them to lose games on the road in their conference and not get penalized as much as the RPI penalized them. If the net was active back in the day Monmouth would of not got left out of the tournament like they did that one year even though they beat a bunch of high majors but lost a couple road games in conference


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We don’t know if Monmouth would have been in. The committee could have easily still left them out. Same with Saint Mary’s in multiple years. Or SMU I’m I think 14-15.


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[Uspshoosier]

We don’t know if Monmouth would have been in. The committee could have easily still left them out. Same with Saint Mary’s in multiple years. Or SMU I’m I think 14-15.


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Actually when they introduce the NET Monmouth was the school that they pointed out what the new system would do for non power schools. Their quality wins improved by 2 and 3. And 2 of their bad losses moved to quad 2. They would of made the field that year if that system was in place


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[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

Actually when they introduce the NET Monmouth was the school that they pointed out what the new system would do for non power schools. Their quality wins improved by 2 and 3. And 2 of their bad losses moved to quad 2. They would of made the field that year if that system was in place


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They say that. But they still might have looked at them and said no.


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[HoosierTrav]

5 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

 

Not good for the Boilers; apparently this is his second concussion this season. Without him protecting the rim for 25 minutes a game I believe the Boilers would be in deep, deep kimchi:

 

10/2/2019  Purdue center Matt Haarms returning to practice soon: After less than half a practice last week, Purdue center Matt Haarms was sent to the sideline, after taking a blow to the head and suffering a concussion.

"I'm good," Haarms said Wednesday at Big Ten media day. "I'm all cleared. All good."

"I was telling people, 'I'd rather this happen to me than one of our new guys,'" Haarms said. "They'd be lost. Thankfully I know what's going on with the team.

"It sucks to miss practice, though. But it was all about being safe and I really appreciate our training staff, they're not rushing me back, really following protocol and making sure I get back safe."

Love me some Kimchi! 

[Brass Cannon]

8 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

 

Not good for the Boilers; apparently this is his second concussion this season. Without him protecting the rim for 25 minutes a game I believe the Boilers would be in deep, deep kimchi:

 

10/2/2019  Purdue center Matt Haarms returning to practice soon: After less than half a practice last week, Purdue center Matt Haarms was sent to the sideline, after taking a blow to the head and suffering a concussion.

"I'm good," Haarms said Wednesday at Big Ten media day. "I'm all cleared. All good."

"I was telling people, 'I'd rather this happen to me than one of our new guys,'" Haarms said. "They'd be lost. Thankfully I know what's going on with the team.

"It sucks to miss practice, though. But it was all about being safe and I really appreciate our training staff, they're not rushing me back, really following protocol and making sure I get back safe."

They better be very cautious. If he were to have another that would be a very bad look for them 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

They better be very cautious. If he were to have another that would be a very bad look for them 

Say good day to Reggie Ray.

The emphasis on concussions has definitely increased by a substantial amount due to the increased studies into CTE. People really only think about it with football but it can really happen in any contact sport and even baseball, volleyball or tennis if you get hit with the ball. Probably even golf. I’ve had one concussion(that was actually diagnosed) and it was in basketball in middle school after a kid fell on my head. It’s an injury that can end someone’s career. So hopefully for Haarms sake, Purdue isn’t trying to rush him back for selfish reasons. And they should be double and triple checking every test.




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[Uspshoosier]

Seton Hall’s Myles Powell has been ruled out indefinitely until he clears concussion protocol. Powell suffered a concussion on Saturday against Rutgers.


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[Chips&Dipo]

13 hours ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

I said the NET was biased. Because it is towards P5 schools.


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Liberty has only beaten one P5 school (Vanderbilt) and they are in the top 20 in the NET.

[Uspshoosier]

Liberty has only beaten one P5 school (Vanderbilt) and they are in the top 20 in the NET.

Duquesne is in the NET top 20 with a neutral court win against Indiana St as their best win as well


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[HoosierAloha]

Love me some Kimchi! 

I eat kimchi out of the jar. Kimchi saved the Korean Peninsula from SARS.


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[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

Say good day to Reggie Ray.

The emphasis on concussions has definitely increased by a substantial amount due to the increased studies into CTE. People really only think about it with football but it can really happen in any contact sport and even baseball, volleyball or tennis if you get hit with the ball. Probably even golf. I’ve had one concussion(that was actually diagnosed) and it was in basketball in middle school after a kid fell on my head. It’s an injury that can end someone’s career. So hopefully for Haarms sake, Purdue isn’t trying to rush him back for selfish reasons. And they should be double and triple checking every test.




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This. It seems like there are people who seem so cavalier about concussions. Not just on here either

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