WayneFleekHoosier Posted July 28, 2017 Posted July 28, 2017 Just kind of gets old reading. It's been like 3 months since we fired him. Eeesh, let it go. He will be a part of the program forever. His failures and successes will be referenced forever, but as Archie builds things, the bulk of the convo will go in that direction. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners thebigweave, AZ Hoosier, ALASKA HOOSIER and 1 other 4 Quote
CSP Posted July 28, 2017 Posted July 28, 2017 Conversation will move on from Crean. It already has for the most part. Much of what Crean gets, he has brought upon himself. *most here-respect what he did for us and did it in as clean as way as possible. Fans are frustrated he couldn't fulfill his duties as we hoped for the program. People are going to vent. I personally don't understand why some people take the jokes so seriously. I read them, giggle or don't, then move on. As mods we aim to keep things civil, but we allow critiques of players and coaches. Sent from my iPad using BtownBannersI don't see any jokes in the last couple of posts. Read one earlier today that Crean was "overrated as a human being"... woodenshoemanHoosierfan, Hoosiers96 and ALASKA HOOSIER 3 Quote
Dalton26 Posted July 28, 2017 Posted July 28, 2017 I don't see any jokes in the last couple of posts. Read one earlier today that Crean was "overrated as a human being"...While I didn't make that comment I agree he is. He has a perception of being a great guy but stories (one I witnessed personally) makes me have no respect for the man. thebigweave, Hoosierfan2017 and raorIU 3 Quote
CSP Posted July 28, 2017 Posted July 28, 2017 While I didn't make that comment I agree he is. He has a perception of being a great guy but stories (one I witnessed personally) makes me have no respect for the man. You're wrong. Quote
CSP Posted July 28, 2017 Posted July 28, 2017 But it's not a big deal for me to post on the bball forum. Glad CC can bring baseball info. That's what I've really been looking for. Quote
Dalton26 Posted July 28, 2017 Posted July 28, 2017 You're wrong. I'm wrong for witnessing how the man treated a student? Lol ok AZ Hoosier, MikeRoberts, HoosierAloha and 1 other 4 Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted July 28, 2017 Posted July 28, 2017 You're wrong. It's personal opinions. Everyone is entitled to their own. I don't have enough real facts to know. Seems like a fine guy to me. Maybe even a great guy. I consider him strange in several ways I won't go into. As far as basketball goes, he wasn't good enough and that is all that really matters to me. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners AZ Hoosier, Str8Hoosiers and Stromboli 3 Quote
CSP Posted July 28, 2017 Posted July 28, 2017 I'm wrong for witnessing how the man treated a student? Lol ok To take one "instance" and assume that's how they always are.. yeah that's wrong. Quote
CSP Posted July 28, 2017 Posted July 28, 2017 It's personal opinions. Everyone is entitled to their own. I don't have enough real facts to know. Seems like a fine guy to me. Maybe even a great guy. I consider him strange in several ways I won't go into. As far as basketball goes, he wasn't good enough and that is all that really matters to me. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBannersI agree he wasn't good enough on the basketball side of things. Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted July 28, 2017 Posted July 28, 2017 To take one "instance" and assume that's how they always are.. yeah that's wrong. Without you knowing the incident, how can you tell someone they are wrong? Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners MikeRoberts 1 Quote
Dalton26 Posted July 28, 2017 Posted July 28, 2017 To take one "instance" and assume that's how they always are.. yeah that's wrong. Not when it aligns with other stories from people some of which worked in the athletic department. MikeRoberts 1 Quote
CSP Posted July 28, 2017 Posted July 28, 2017 Without you knowing the incident, how can you tell someone they are wrong? Sent from my iPhone using BtownBannersDid you even read what I wrote? You can't take one mistake and assume that's how they always are. Quote
CSP Posted July 28, 2017 Posted July 28, 2017 Not when it aligns with other stories from people some of which worked in the athletic department. We all have stories. I have great ones about him. Quote
Popular Post Dalton26 Posted July 28, 2017 Popular Post Posted July 28, 2017 We all have stories. I have great ones about him. And that's fine. That's the beautiful thing about America everyone is entitled to their opinions but to tell someone theirs is wrong is laughable at best. Crimson and Cream, waitingon6, WayneFleekHoosier and 5 others 8 Quote
TXHoosierDaddy Posted July 28, 2017 Posted July 28, 2017 6 minutes ago, btownqb said: We all have stories. I have great ones about him. Great. Well everyone else might not. You bash people for continuing to bring him up and saying anything remotely negative (sorry but that's going to happen to any coach that gets fired because obviously not everyone wanted him here). I have no doubt TC is a good guy. But I also agree he comes off as something different than what he really is. Knew a few folks in the athletic department that didn't think as highly as him as you did. MikeRoberts, raorIU, Crimson and Cream and 1 other 4 Quote
CSP Posted July 28, 2017 Posted July 28, 2017 And that's fine. That's the beautiful thing about America everyone is entitled to their opinions but to tell someone theirs is wrong is laughable at best. Didn't say your opinion was wrong. What's laughable is you not being able to understand that. It's wrong to see one instance of someone and assume that's how they always are... That's what's I said. Quote
Dalton26 Posted July 28, 2017 Posted July 28, 2017 Didn't say your opinion was wrong. What's laughable is you not being able to understand that. It's wrong to see one instance of someone and assume that's how they always are... That's what's I said. No that's not what you said. I gave my opinion and your responded with "you're wrong" the only other thing that was said was I witnessed him being a ****** and others have too. You wouldn't know if that was wrong or not. You're doing the same thing that you're up in arms about. So because you had a good instance that makes him a great man, but if others had a bad instances it's wrong to judge? That makes no sense. HoosierAloha, MikeRoberts and Crimson and Cream 3 Quote
ALASKA HOOSIER Posted July 28, 2017 Posted July 28, 2017 Stromboli, OliviaPope40, Dalton26 and 2 others 5 Quote
CSP Posted July 28, 2017 Posted July 28, 2017 No that's not what you said. I gave my opinion and your responded with "you're wrong" the only other thing that was said was I witnessed him being a ****** and others have too. You wouldn't know if that was wrong or not. You're doing the same thing that you're up in arms about. So because you had a good instance that makes him a great man, but if others had a bad instances it's wrong to judge? That makes no sense. I told you what I said. All coaches are a**** at times. But again.. what I said, you're wrong to assume him a bad person because you've witnessed one instance. Dang man. Quote
JSHoosier Posted July 28, 2017 Posted July 28, 2017 A couple of times I've heard Crean described as "not a nice guy" and "a-hole". He's probably somewhere in between the great guy some think he is and the a-hole others have experienced him to be. Hoosierfan2017 and woodenshoemanHoosierfan 2 Quote
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