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[J34]

[jermhoosierfan]

25 minutes ago, J34 said:

Looks like Chauncey Billups, the coach of the Trailblazers, also got busted.  

 

[Stuhoo]

32 minutes ago, J34 said:

Is there a statute for impersonating an NBA player that we can arrest Rozier for?

[Hovadipo]

13 minutes ago, jermhoosierfan said:

Looks like Chauncey Billups, the coach of the Trailblazers, also got busted.  

 

Sounds like Billups is related, but more tied to a poker operation. Feels sort of like the train is off the tracks here. Unfortunately it probably needs to happen. 

[jermhoosierfan]

40 minutes ago, J34 said:

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/46695228/sources-terry-rozier-arrested-part-gambling-inquiry

Not the first time for Rozier but Billups was tied to an illegal operation with the Mob?  

[Stuhoo]

20 minutes ago, jermhoosierfan said:

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/46695228/sources-terry-rozier-arrested-part-gambling-inquiry

Not the first time for Rozier but Billups was tied to an illegal operation with the Mob?  

That could be multiple degrees of separation. In other words, Billups has a guy that he gambles with and gives information to.

That guy has a guy who is somehow tied to an LCN guy. 

In any event, this is the kind of thing where Billups takes a no jail time/community service plea that requires cooperation so that the investigation can move up the ladder.

[Rico]

1 minute ago, Stuhoo said:

That could be multiple degrees of separation. In other words, Billups has a guy that he gambles with and gives information to.

That guy has a guy who is somehow tied to an LCN guy. 

In any event, this is the kind of thing where Billups takes a no jail time/community service plea that requires cooperation so that the investigation can move up the ladder.

Is there a "dead man's hand" involved?

[Demo]

28 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

Sounds like Billups is related, but more tied to a poker operation. Feels sort of like the train is off the tracks here. Unfortunately it probably needs to happen. 

Literally the DAY AFTER the NCAA announces that college athletes and coaches can bet on pro sports. This is gonna go really, really well.

[Pagoda]

[jermhoosierfan]

4 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

That could be multiple degrees of separation. In other words, Billups has a guy that he gambles with and gives information to.

That guy has a guy who is somehow tied to an LCN guy. 

In any event, this is the kind of thing where Billups takes a no jail time/community service plea that requires cooperation so that the investigation can move up the ladder.

A lot of details are coming out.  "A detention memo said the games were rigged through sophisticated cheating technology, such as altered card shuffling machines, hidden cameras in poker chip trays, special sunglasses and X-ray equipment built into the table to read the cards of unsuspecting players."  I guess one night in Vegas with an "altered card shuffling machine", he won so many hands that he was told to lose a couple to not draw suspicion that he was cheating.  There are 4 mob families tied to it with 35 people arrested.  Rozier and Billups have been put on leave.

[Stuhoo]

11 minutes ago, jermhoosierfan said:

A lot of details are coming out.  "A detention memo said the games were rigged through sophisticated cheating technology, such as altered card shuffling machines, hidden cameras in poker chip trays, special sunglasses and X-ray equipment built into the table to read the cards of unsuspecting players."  I guess one night in Vegas with an "altered card shuffling machine", he won so many hands that he was told to lose a couple to not draw suspicion that he was cheating.  There are 4 mob families tied to it with 35 people arrested.  Rozier and Billups have been put on leave.

Sure, that explains the gambling scheme. Haven't looked for what Rozier or Billups' exposure is, but the quoted stuff above sure ain't it.

Edit: Looks like the charges state that Rozier was indicted for giving inside game info to bettors.

Billups is accused of being a celebrity insert at card games to lure in big money playes so that they could be fleeced.

Time and defense attorney counter-arguments will tell.

[Hovadipo]

2 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Sure, that explains the gambling scheme. Haven't looked for what Rozier or Billups' exposure is, but the quoted stuff above sure ain't it.

If I'm reading correctly, Billups is one of apparently a few high profile people that played in the games and were used to lure regular people in to get robbed essentially. Don't know how he and Rozier are connected, but one of the allegations against Rozier is something along the lines of "told the mob he was going to exit a game early, mobsters put a LOT of money on his unders, he exited after 9 minutes, they made tens of thousands, and there was some sort of money exchange at Rozier's residence."

[jermhoosierfan]

7 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Sure, that explains the gambling scheme. Haven't looked for what Rozier or Billups' exposure is, but the quoted stuff above sure ain't it.

Rozier pulled himself out of a game in late 2023 for an "injury", and he told his childhood best friend before the game who sold that information to someone for $100k.  Out of the 35 arrested, 3 were in both the poker and the sports betting scheme.  I totally believe that stuff like this happens more than we know.

"Jones allegedly sold information on a prominent player's injury to sports bettors while he was an unofficial assistant coach for the Los Angeles Lakers in February 2023.

The indictment said that Jones was either a teammate or coach of the player, unnamed, while Jones played on the Cavaliers and coached for the Lakers. That relationship allowed him access to "non-public information" about that player's medical status on Feb. 9, 2023, when the Lakers were playing the Milwaukee Bucks.

Jones allegedly texted his co-conspirator that the player would be out that night and to "Get a big bet on Milwaukee tonight before the information is out!" according to the indictment.

LeBron James, power forward for the Lakers, was out that night due to a sore left ankle and foot, according to a game recap."

 

[jermhoosierfan]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/live-updates-nba-chauncey-billups-terry-rozier-arrested-gambling-rcna239312

This is an update thread for the "scandal" 

[Home Jersey]

Let me know when they arrest the execs at Fan Duel and/or Draft Kings, lol 

[Stuhoo]

9 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

If I'm reading correctly, Billups is one of apparently a few high profile people that played in the games and were used to lure regular people in to get robbed essentially. Don't know how he and Rozier are connected, but one of the allegations against Rozier is something along the lines of "told the mob he was going to exit a game early, mobsters put a LOT of money on his unders, he exited after 9 minutes, they made tens of thousands, and there was some sort of money exchange at Rozier's residence."

Seems as though Rozier is in deep doo-doo. 

Billups? He will have had to have known not just that he was getting paid to lure big spenders to a game, but also to have known that the purpose for doing so was to defraud those invitees. And if I'm the leaders of the conspiracy, there'd be no reason to share that with Billups. If he didn't know that was the purpose it would be like inviting a celeb to be the door greeter at your casino with the intent of luring customers.

[Stuhoo]

If this article is to be believed, then Rozier would have to have known that his friend was selling the info and/or profited from the sale. 

"Terry Rozier gave private information about his plan to leave a March 2023 game early to his childhood best friend, who sold the information to conspirators who would place bets on the game, an unsealed indictment alleged.

A second indictment released today in Operation Nothing But Bet alleges that Rozier planned to remove himself from the first quarter of the Charlotte Hornets game against the New Orleans Pelicans over a supposed injury. Prosecutors said he gave that information, which the Hornets weren't aware of, to his childhood best friend, who was also named in the indictment.

His friend was promised approximately $100,000 from the expected fraudulent gambling winnings, the indictment said."

 

[wirenuts]

41 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Let me know when they arrest the execs at Fan Duel and/or Draft Kings, lol 

Yes this is a much better excuse that it is a rigged conspiracy against my bets rather than the excuse that I'm terrible at sports betting lol

[Hovadipo]

13 minutes ago, wirenuts said:

Yes this is a much better excuse that it is a rigged conspiracy against my bets rather than the excuse that I'm terrible at sports betting lol

In all seriousness I’m almost certain I’ve been got by Terry Rozier. He’s constantly doing sketchy stuff in my parlays. 

[wirenuts]

7 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

In all seriousness I’m almost certain I’ve been got by Terry Rozier. He’s constantly doing sketchy stuff in my parlays. 

I bet a very high percentage of draftkings bettors have been gotten by Terry Rozier, including myself. I have bet on him when he was in a heat uniform, and some of the clips they show of his play is blatantly obvious