(2014) PF Emmit Holt to IU

[Hovadipo 56,441]

Nobody will be complaining when Thon commits in a couple months for 2015.


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[shortspacequickness 1,034]

Nobody will be complaining when Thon commits in a couple months for 2015.


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IMO that's a job saver (should the season go poorly) and puts Indiana in instant position to contend for the whole thing. Ferrell, Blackmon, Williams, Johnson, Robinson, Maker, Perea, Davis...pretty strong.

[Hovadipo 56,441]

[quote name="shortspacequickness" post="79122" timestamp="1408308341"]IMO that's a job saver (should the season go poorly) and puts Indiana in instant position to contend for the whole thing. Ferrell, Blackmon, Williams, Johnson, Robinson, Maker, Perea, Davis...pretty strong.[/quote]

Totally agree. I kind of said that tongue in cheek, but it's absolutely possible. I've said it before on here, landing him could shift the trajectory of the program even more than landing Cody did.


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[WayneFleekHoosier 48,467]

Totally agree. I kind of said that tongue in cheek, but it's absolutely possible. I've said it before on here, landing him could shift the trajectory of the program even more than landing Cody did. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

I really think you are right about that. He is a special talent. I am keeping a very close eye on his 2015v2016 developments. Love his attitude about winning as well. Total package!

[WayneFleekHoosier 48,467]

From ITH: (The new highlight video looks better to me)

Emmitt Holt, a 6-foot-7 forward who graduated from Webster Schroeder (NY) this past spring and opted to head to Vermont Academy for a postgraduate season, will visit Indiana beginning tomorrow and could become the sixth member of the 2014 class for the Hoosiers.

At the AAU Nationals in July in Louisville, Holt averaged 21 points, 13 rebounds and 4 blocked shots in nine games as his Albany City Rocks team finished second in the event. During the 2014 Nike Elite Youth Basketball League (EYBL) season, he averaged 11.6 points (60.2 FG%), 7.1 rebounds and 2.1 blocks per game.

In his final season at Webster Schroeder, Holt averaged 19.8 points, 14.6 rebounds and five blocks and was a finalist for the Mr. Basketball award in New York.

[mdn82 25,510]

It kind of scares me that we are still recruiting 2014 at this point.  Impact talent in August?  Can't say I have seen that before.  

[All_Hoosiers 873]

I'm generally a positive guy regarding IUBB, but we should not be in a situation where this guy is an option for us, especially this late in the game.


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[Lt. John McClaine 541]

Most coaches never stop recruiting, and nobody said that he's an Impact Talent. Holt would be a guy that adds depth at a position that IU desperately needs help at. We've got one scholarship to use, and Crean hates to keep schollies in his pocket, so he's trying to use it on a player that very well could help IU down low since that is by far our biggest weak link.

But you are right, bringing in a player right when school is starting is very rare. I can't think of a player added this late, maybe ever. I know that Michael Hermon, who played on the 94 team was a very late addition, he was a guard out of the Chicago area, and he only lasted one year at IU, but the one similarity between Michael Hermon, if you've ever heard of him, and Emmitt Holt is they both are players that filled/fill a position of need. In 1994 IU had no athleticism at point guard and nobody that could create off of the bounce so Coach Knight took a flyer on a kid that was a playground legend out of the Chicago area. Fast Forward 20 years and now IU has basically 4 points per game returning down low between Hanner and Devin, and un proven 7 foot project in Jeremiah April. Why not bring in a kid at a position of need, who was a finalist for the New York State Mr. Basketball with your last scholly if he's available?

I'm just glad that Coach Crean never stops from trying to improve his roster.

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[quote name="Jon Robling" post="79148" timestamp="1408324549"]Most coaches never stop recruiting, and nobody said that he's an Impact Talent. Holt would be a guy that adds depth at a position that IU desperately needs help at. We've got one scholarship to use, and Crean hates to keep schollies in his pocket, so he's trying to use it on a player that very well could help IU down low since that is by far our biggest weak link.

But you are right, bringing in a player right when school is starting is very rare. I can't think of a player added this late, maybe ever. I know that Michael Hermon, who played on the 94 team was a very late addition, he was a guard out of the Chicago area, and he only lasted one year at IU, but the one similarity between Michael Hermon, if you've ever heard of him, and Emmitt Holt is they both are players that filled/fill a position of need. In 1994 IU had no athleticism at point guard and nobody that could create off of the bounce so Coach Knight took a flyer on a kid that was a playground legend out of the Chicago area. Fast Forward 20 years and now IU has basically 4 points per game returning down low between Hanner and Devin, and un proven 7 foot project in Jeremiah April. Why not bring in a kid at a position of need, who was a finalist for the New York State Mr. Basketball with your last scholly if he's available?

I'm just glad that Coach Crean never stops from trying to improve his roster.[/quote]

Some insiders suggested our over signed position had a negative impact on our ability to land Gary Harris. Similar situation. We add Remy late the year before and then Gary become the over sign.

If signing a marginal 14 player negatively impacts 15 why do it. Even if it does not turn off a kid it does limit the kids we can sign in 15 during the early period.




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[Lt. John McClaine 541]

Because nothing is set in stone for 2015, that's a long way away. In case you haven't watched IU lately, we have constantly have turn over, every year. When you say that we only have one scholarship left for 2015, and you say that now, well that's not necessarily accurate because of Roster turnover.

Also, Crean is coaching for his job right now, he must feel that as it stands right now our front court depth is not good enough, and here's a kid that he feels can help shore some of that up. Why would Crean bank the scholly for next year, if he knows that he has to do everything he can this year to rebound from a very disappointing season last year. He can't afford to just sit back and wait for possible recruits next year, he has to address the situation now. I don't see how IU fans can feel comfortable with our Front Court prospects on this team, if you can add a player now that you feel can help the team and you have a scholarship available you do it!

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I think the problem is that most of us think he can't help us this year so why bring him in? He's just another kid that'll play sparingly then transfer. Just like Bawa, AE, Hollowell, Jurkin, etc. I think the same will happen to Hartman, April and Priller. 3 kids that should have never received scholarships in the 1st place imo, but hey in Tom Crean we trust right?<br /><br />Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using BtownBanners mobile app<br /><br />

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I think the problem is that most of us think he can't help us this year so why bring him in? He's just another kid that'll play sparingly then transfer. Just like Bawa, AE, Hollowell, Jurkin, etc. I think the same will happen to Hartman, April and Priller. 3 kids that should have never received scholarships in the 1st place imo, but hey in Tom Crean we trust right?<br /><br />Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using BtownBanners mobile app<br /><br />

 

All true, but that's why a team is given 13 scholarships; so that seven or eight will work out.

 

If 11, 12, or 13 of them turned into viable rotation players, some would transfer toot sweet. 

 

You take a shot at kids who have a chance at becoming rotation players, and who are solid citizens who don't b!tch and whine when they're on the bench, and hope that enough of em are really good.

 

Devin Davis? Ranked JUST LIKE the kids we are back filling with, and through hard work and talent unrecognized by the national rating services, he's a keeper. 

 

Others? Not so much.

[WayneFleekHoosier 48,467]

All true, but that's why a team is given 13 scholarships; so that seven or eight will work out.
 
If 11, 12, or 13 of them turned into viable rotation players, some would transfer toot sweet. 
 
You take a shot at kids who have a chance at becoming rotation players, and who are solid citizens who don't b!tch and whine when they're on the bench, and hope that enough of em are really good.
 
Devin Davis? Ranked JUST LIKE the kids we are back filling with, and through hard work and talent unrecognized by the national rating services, he's a keeper. 
 
Others? Not so much.

I mostly agree with all you say here but, Devin Davis was ranked from 100-150 range all along. Better than Hoetzel, Priller, Holt and April as far as ratings go, so not exactly a fair comparison.

However, I do see the logic in using up the schollies and letting the chips fall where they may with the players that don't work out.

[WayneFleekHoosier 48,467]

I mostly agree with all you say here but, Devin Davis was ranked from 100-150 range all along. Better than Hoetzel, Priller, Holt and April as far as ratings go, so not exactly a fair comparison.
However, I do see the logic in using up the schollies and letting the chips fall where they may with the players that don't work out.

Just did a quick look and see.

Devin Davis ended 127 on rivals, 163 on 247 composite, and 180 range from 247. He hovered around 100 for a long time and fell off during his senior year.

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[quote name="WayneHoosier" post="79168" timestamp="1408328170"]I mostly agree with all you say here but, Devin Davis was ranked from 100-150 range all along. Better than Hoetzel, Priller, Holt and April as far as ratings go, so not exactly a fair comparison.

However, I do see the logic in using up the schollies and letting the chips fall where they may with the players that don't work out.[/quote] http://247sports.com/Player/Devin-Davis-11978?Institution=11042


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[bronkonagurski 894]

It kind of scares me that we are still recruiting 2014 at this point.  Impact talent in August?  Can't say I have seen that before.  

 

It isn't normal. 

[WayneFleekHoosier 48,467]

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Just did a quick look and see.
Devin Davis ended 127 on rivals, 163 on 247 composite, and 180 range from 247. He hovered around 100 for a long time and fell off during his senior year.

[WayneFleekHoosier 48,467]

Does Holt have a 247 page??? I can't seem to find one.

[OliviaPope40 6,533]

Does Holt have a 247 page??? I can't seem to find one.

I searched him on our 247 page and I couldn't find him.

[Lt. John McClaine 541]

Well i guess I just really don't get into recruiting numbers, I never really have, that's the old school in me. I'm not a Tom Crean apologist, and I know someone said in Tom Crean we trust, sarcastically, but I do trust Coach Crean. I think that his recruiting prowess has spoken for itself while being at IU, just not when it comes to picking up Centers, particularly African Centers.

I'm more excited about Holt than I am the April signing, and contrary to some, I do feel that he can help IU. This is not the old days where a team is locked into a player for four years, and if he can't play you still keep him on the roster, scholarships, whether you agree with it or not are judged on a year by year basis. In the current situation that IU is in with not many able bodies down low, you use a scholarship on a guy this late in the game that can help you next year. The Staff has seen enough in Holt to form an opinion that this kid can help IU for 2015, and that's good enough for me.