JSHoosier Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 28 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said: That’s likely going to turn into the worst contract ever maybe it doesn’t but statistically it will Possible. He's had 2 Tommy John surgeries so I'd question how long he'll be able to keep pitching. Oh and I read much of the money is deferred. Quote
Brass Cannon Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 1 minute ago, JSHoosier said: Possible. He's had 2 Tommy John surgeries so I'd question how long he'll be able to keep pitching. Oh and I read much of the money is deferred. Very much a win now move and damn the future Quote
LIHoosier Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, JSHoosier said: Possible. He's had 2 Tommy John surgeries so I'd question how long he'll be able to keep pitching. Oh and I read much of the money is deferred. I'm curious how insane it gets. Scherzer is getting $15 mn a year for 5 more years from his Nationals deal on top of that gawdy contract the Mets paid off to get him out of there. thebigweave 1 Quote
Hovadipo Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 12 minutes ago, LIHoosier said: I'm curious how insane it gets. Scherzer is getting $15 mn a year for 5 more years from his Nationals deal on top of that gawdy contract the Mets paid off to get him out of there. I just saw today that Scherzer is currently a top-4 paid player for 3 different teams lol. thebigweave and Demo 1 1 Quote
Demo Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 1 hour ago, LIHoosier said: Ohtani to the Dodgers, 10 years... 700 MILLION DOLLARS I have no problem with Ohtani getting every dime someone’s willing to pay him. But his AAV is higher than the opening day payrolls of 2 teams last year and basically the same as 2 others. If that can come anywhere near happening your sport has an f’ed up business model. Rico, thebigweave, Hovadipo and 1 other 4 Quote
kreigh8 Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 Most of this is deferred. Dodgers going to be paying for a long time but this will allow them to be aggressive for SP Quote
OliviaPope40 Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 https://x.com/cbssports/status/1733580838749577702?s=42&t=9q4FFqUAGzbYkSb_4cheqQ Quote
Brass Cannon Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 1 minute ago, OliviaPope40 said: https://x.com/cbssports/status/1733580838749577702?s=42&t=9q4FFqUAGzbYkSb_4cheqQ Begs the question how many billions the two LA teams have spent in the last decade for a single World Series Quote
Alford Bailey Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 I’m fine with it. Shows how ridiculous MLB is. Probably won’t win a WS either. thebigweave 1 Quote
Rico Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 I wonder how many games Ohtani will play for the Dodgers before he gets hurt? thebigweave 1 Quote
Brass Cannon Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 After some thought I think I am finally on board with more tightly regulated mlb salaries. This was just insane thebigweave 1 Quote
Rico Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 44 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said: After some thought I think I am finally on board with more tightly regulated mlb salaries. This was just insane MLB needs to use the NFL model. It will never happen. RaceToTheTop 1 Quote
LIHoosier Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 8 minutes ago, Rico said: MLB needs to use the NFL model. It will never happen. Can't really cuz the TV revenues are more localized than the NFL's national deal. As much as some people want the Yankees, Dodgers, etc. to not out spend everyone, the small market teams don't want a cap cuz they'd have to double their payrolls just to make a hypothetical salary floor. thebigweave 1 Quote
Rico Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 1 minute ago, LIHoosier said: Can't really cuz the TV revenues are more localized than the NFL's national deal. As much as some people want the Yankees, Dodgers, etc. to not out spend everyone, the small market teams don't want a cap cuz they'd have to double their payrolls just to make a hypothetical salary floor. As I said, MLB needs to follow the NFL model. Quote
kreigh8 Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 23 minutes ago, Rico said: As I said, MLB needs to follow the NFL model. Why? To solve what problem? Dodgers have had payroll of $300M lately and hadn’t won a World Series with the exception of the shortened Covid season. The Rangers and Diamondbacks played in this past World Series. Might we wait out the off-season and have some games actually played before we change how the game is operated? Quote
Rico Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 21 minutes ago, kreigh8 said: Why? To solve what problem? Dodgers have had payroll of $300M lately and hadn’t won a World Series with the exception of the shortened Covid season. The Rangers and Diamondbacks played in this past World Series. Might we wait out the off-season and have some games actually played before we change how the game is operated? You don't see a problem with MLB and the disparity between small markets vs. big markets? Quote
kreigh8 Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, Rico said: You don't see a problem with MLB and the disparity between small markets vs. big markets? It's been that way since the game starting paying players. $700M contract doesn't change that and I'm not sure what the NFL model would do to solve it. Every team being forced to pay to a floor would do some harm as well And since you mentioned small markets. The Orioles and Rays won ~100 games (101 and 99) - it's not about money spent it's how it's being spent Quote
Rico Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, kreigh8 said: It's been that way since the game starting paying players. Really? Yeah, free agency was big back in 1923... RaceToTheTop 1 Quote
kreigh8 Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 Just now, Rico said: Really? Yeah, free agency was big back in 1923... Sure. That's exactly what I was saying Quote
Demo Posted December 12, 2023 Posted December 12, 2023 I’ve always liked Ohtani, but this is so gross I can’t even believe it. Allows the Dodgers to circumvent the competitive balance tax implications. I assume it allows Ohtani to circumvent California state income tax. Gives the richest team in baseball the opportunity to acquire probably 2 frontline starters. Apparently it was his idea. I really, really want to see this go badly for the Dodgers. thebigweave and LIHoosier 2 Quote
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