Who would you hire to replace CTC?

[Banksyrules 4,511]

Contracts aside do u think coach miller from Dayton is a good enough coach for IU ( skills wise )?


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[JSHoosier 19,817]

So if we don't win any games next year it is all good because the team got good grades? The academic stuff is great and should be taken into consideration, but lets not act like it should take precedent over everything else. 

Yeah, the academic side is important (this is COLLEGE athletics with STUDENT-athletes) but at the end of the day the biggest part of Crean's job is to win.

[KelleyHoosh 2,263]

I think hes legit. I wouldn't want him to come to IU now after just three years as a head coach, but I think he shows promise. Son of a coach, played at NC State, spent time on elite staffs in Ohio State and Arizona... Having coached at OSU and Dayton, his father being a coach in PA, I would imagine he has decent recruiting connections. I like the way his team plays... In 3 years or so if his teams improve and become consistent I would like the hire. 

[Rayl 527]

All I can say is this "good grade thing" is going to take some work with the remaining squad...just sayin


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The hits just keep on coming.

[CottageGrove 563]

I wasn't really following the UD / Stanford game all that closely, but I just heard them say on the highlights that UD played 12 guys. I'm not sure our fanbase could handle another coach that plays a rotation any deeper than 8-9.  :biggrin:

[mdn82 25,510]

Why is it every coach who has his first run is all of the sudden an up and coming coach?  If we get rid of Crean for $10+ million we better get a top 10 coach.  Not an up and comer.  

[KelleyHoosh 2,263]

Why is it every coach who has his first run is all of the sudden an up and coming coach?  If we get rid of Crean for $10+ million we better get a top 10 coach.  Not an up and comer.  

I agree that I wouldn't want to get rid of Crean for Archie Miller. No way. I just think we could do a lot worse than Miller in a few years if Crean were to leave. 

 

I also think if Crean were to leave anytime in the next two years IU had better make sure its for a top coach, as you said. The difficulty is finding a proven commodity who'd leave their position for us. 

[Gahoosierfan 272]

I don't think Crean should be given another few years to make IU a winner. He has had 4 and we aren't among the top 100 this year. I think he has failed. Bring on Brad Stevens.

[KingPG21 6,582]

I don't think Crean should be given another few years to make IU a winner. He has had 4 and we aren't among the top 100 this year. I think he has failed. Bring on Brad Stevens.

So first we should buyout Crean, then we should ask Stevens to leave all that money on his contract, and then give him an outrageous amount of money to come here. And yes if we were to try to get him now, his contract would be ridiculous. It has been said numerous times, Stevens isn't happening any time soon. Also there is nothing saying he is ready to leave the pros

[djsalway 4,161]

I don't think Crean should be given another few years to make IU a winner. He has had 4 and we aren't among the top 100 this year. I think he has failed. Bring on Brad Stevens.

 

You realize he's now going on his 7th year, right? Also, Brad Stevens is not leaving the NBA after one (rather successful) season. People need to understand that.

[HoosierReb01 7,511]

Excellent read and thanks for bringing it over. Fisher never got the credit for leading Michigan to a championship or leading the Fab 5. The Fab 5 just needed someone to roll out a ball and the championship was Frieders players is what most thought. This article shows just how good a coach he actually is...and some others noted I really like as coaches.

Actually, I don't give Fisher much credit for that. He was a inexperienced coach at that point and I thought he did a crappy job. As for Fisher now? With experience I believe he has became a excellent coach. Just as much as I had little respect for him as a coach at that time, I have a lot of respect for him at this point.

[JohnHellman 11]

I know this is unrealistic but I think a coach like brad Stevens would be awesome! A X's and O's type of guy. He always used statistics to his advantage. He always made his team believe they could do it. He would break down each game statically and be like guys "if you would have limited them to three less shot or three less rebounds that game would have been ours" he fired his team up and really stressed defense. Hence why they played in those two championship games


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[CampHoosier 3,697]

I know this is unrealistic but I think a coach like brad Stevens would be awesome! A X's and O's type of guy. He always used statistics to his advantage. He always made his team believe they could do it. He would break down each game statically and be like guys "if you would have limited them to three less shot or three less rebounds that game would have been ours" he fired his team up and really stressed defense. Hence why they played in those two championship games


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Please read the 4 posts above you

[JohnHellman 11]

Oops my bad. I just seen the topic and posted. Note to self: read discussion more in depth m haha


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[JohnHellman 11]

[quote name="CampCrean" post="55017" timestamp="1396024543"]Please read the 4 posts above you[/quote]

But notice I said unrealistic haha


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[CampHoosier 3,697]

But notice I said unrealistic haha


I Bleed Crimson!

 

Fair enough

[87ashtonhoosier 150]

IMHO, I believe it's time for a homegrown Indiana coach. Two names that come to mind are former IU great Jim Crews, and Coach Mike Lightfoot. crews had been successful in each of the coaching jobs he's had, and Lightfoot is the quickest to achieve 400 wins in his career, and now is around 700 wins. Both retain and graduate players.
IU has moved away from looking for student-team players, in favor of blue-clippers. That's all well and good if you want to be an NBA farm, but IU champs of past won those championships on team play. Too many problems with trying to load the team with the 'elite' players. Discipline, effort and competing egos get in the way of what IU basketball should be about, being a real part of the university by committing to IU basketball first, and to self-interest last. Glass, Crean, Wilson, Dunbar, have all lost sight of the fact that Indiana's successes in the past have been anchored in recruiting and developing INDIANA athletes into cohesive winning teams. I'm afraid that we have regressed from teaching coaches to conditioning coaches.
Time for new stock , from the old school!!!

[Rayl 527]

Saying Crews has been successful is definitely stretching things. He's also had three head coaching jobs. His winning percentage at Evansville was a pedestrian .584. In 17 seasons, he made the NCAA Tournament 4 times, never getting past the second round. At Army, he had a winning percentage of .296. In 7 seasons he never even managed to finish with a .500 record. He's doing very well with an already good team that he inherited from Rick Majerus at Saint Louis. His history does not suggest that he will be able to sustain it when Majerus' guys leave.

 

Mike Lightfoot is an NAIA coach. Not even worth discussing.

 

As for needing a coach from Indiana. Where was Bob Knight from when he was hired? I forget.

[HoosierReb01 7,511]

IMHO, I believe it's time for a homegrown Indiana coach. Two names that come to mind are former IU great Jim Crews, and Coach Mike Lightfoot. crews had been successful in each of the coaching jobs he's had, and Lightfoot is the quickest to achieve 400 wins in his career, and now is around 700 wins. Both retain and graduate players.
IU has moved away from looking for student-team players, in favor of blue-clippers. That's all well and good if you want to be an NBA farm, but IU champs of past won those championships on team play. Too many problems with trying to load the team with the 'elite' players. Discipline, effort and competing egos get in the way of what IU basketball should be about, being a real part of the university by committing to IU basketball first, and to self-interest last. Glass, Crean, Wilson, Dunbar, have all lost sight of the fact that Indiana's successes in the past have been anchored in recruiting and developing INDIANA athletes into cohesive winning teams. I'm afraid that we have regressed from teaching coaches to conditioning coaches.
Time for new stock , from the old school!!!

I agree with a lot of what you said, but would hate to see IU limit themselves to a "homegrown" coach. Also, while IUBKB has always had a number of Indiana players on the roster, its been shown a number of times that even RMK did not look at the state lines as a boundary in recruiting. As far as Wilson goes, if he were to depend too much on Indiana recruits, expect pretty much the same ole, same ole. He's doing what he should do, trying to lock down the top instate talent, and going where he has too go to fill the recruiting classes with quality B1G recruits. I like "homegrown" as much as the next guy, but RMK wasn't "homegrown" either. Crews is a good coach, but I highly doubt that he is a coach who would meet expectations of IU fans. 

[CampHoosier 3,697]

Crews would be a horrible hire. Why are people so obsessed with getting an "Indiana guy". Bob Knight was an OSU grad who coached at Army. Expand your horizons people. This state is big but it's not that big.