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Class of '66 Old Fart

IUBB @ Iowa - Saturday, 01.11.25 @ 8:00 ET on Fox-TV

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I never thought we would lose by 25 going into the game. I truly thought this team turned a corner. Illinois is do or die. They lose that we know what will happen next the L train will come through

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1 minute ago, cbp4iu said:

I never thought we would lose by 25 going into the game. I truly thought this team turned a corner. Illinois is do or die. They lose that we know what will happen next the L train will come through

Really think they have a shot at a pissed off U of I team?  Good luck with that.  

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I never thought we would lose by 25 going into the game. I truly thought this team turned a corner. Illinois is do or die. They lose that we know what will happen next the L train will come through

The problem was the wins other than Penn state were not against good teams. Hard to gauge turning a corner v bad teams at home. This is still a team that was picked to finish second. They should not be losing by 20 to anyone  

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5 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

The problem was the wins other than Penn state were not against good teams. Hard to gauge turning a corner v bad teams at home. This is still a team that was picked to finish second. They should not be losing by 20 to anyone  

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Which is why I never thought they would lose this bad. Let’s be for real if this IU team plays up tempo teams with decent shooters they will get blown out. Myles Rice for all the bad mistakes he makes… He makes a lot of things happen on offense. The game when he gets 2 early fouls happens… IU will lose. I’ve watched enough games this year to say our offense when he’s off the court is so bad. Carlyle is an issue and I don’t understand how Woody doesn’t put a stop to it. Tonight in the Iowa game once he made those first 2 shots I knew he would shoot it 10+ times because he is the ultimate ME guy. The moment he comes in and takes the lead guard position from Rice we have no flow on offense and Carlyle will shoot it until he’s pulled back off the court. Having that type of guard running our offense in the 2nd unit is so frustrating. The ball completely stops moving the minute he enters the game. Honestly our Lineups at times when it’s

Him Galloway Mgbako Tucker Hatton is so hard to understand. Mgbako is buried on a wing or corner… Tucker is waiting to get his hands on the ball to shoot. Carlyle doesn’t pass…  Galloway is just standing waiting for the ball to drive and show off pass.

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Which is why I never thought they would lose this bad. Let’s be for real if this IU team plays up tempo teams with decent shooters they will get blown out. Myles Rice for all the bad mistakes he makes… He makes a lot of things happen on offense. The game when he gets 2 early fouls happens… IU will lose. I’ve watched enough games this year to say our offense when he’s off the court is so bad. Carlyle is an issue and I don’t understand how Woody doesn’t put a stop to it. Tonight in the Iowa game once he made those first 2 shots I knew he would shoot it 10+ times because he is the ultimate ME guy. The moment he comes in and takes the lead guard position from Rice we have no flow on offense and Carlyle will shoot it until he’s pulled back off the court. Having that type of guard running our offense in the 2nd unit is so frustrating. The ball completely stops moving the minute he enters the game. Honestly our Lineups at times when it’s
Him Galloway Mgbako Tucker Hatton is so hard to understand. Mgbako is buried on a wing or corner… Tucker is waiting to get his hands on the ball to shoot. Carlyle doesn’t pass…  Galloway is just standing waiting for the ball to drive and show off pass.
There is really no flow. Tucker just stands like you said. We aren't vert athletic but I think he is and could thrive in the right system. Galloway would probably do well on a team like purdue in a limited roll. Yes we have alot of talent but it's wasted.

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10 hours ago, DChoosier said:

I still habitually watch because I was at IU during the “glory days” and then watched great teams with my buddies after graduation.

Kudos to those of you 35 and under as I have no idea  as to how you can be so tied into the basketball program. This sh!te has gotten so old…..(but I’ll watch the next game, LOL).

LOL. Last night I asked myself: "why am I wasting my time watching this garbage?".  Then it hit me - it's totally out of habit.  The difference is that there's no excitement or expectation of success.

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This was another massive blunder by woodson! The team came out as unprepared as any team i have seen! The turnovers were insane. The lack of focus on defense was unforgivable! Bako has a bad game against usc and you think the coaches would have him mentally ready to go and it was another repeat! What's wrong with him? What's wrong with a team to play that terrible several times a season?

THIS GAME SUCKED IN EVERYTHING YOU CAN SUCK AT IN A GAME OF BASKETBALL! This is a routine now

 

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I'll apologize in advance because I didn't watch the second half and haven't read the second half posts in this thread.  I turned it off at halftime and told my wife they'll lose by 20.    Selected comments from the press.

Iowa dominated points off of turnovers (24-to-10) and fast break points (26-to-2). According to Zach Osterman of The Indianapolis Star, this was Indiana’s 12th Big Ten loss by 15 or more points under Mike Woodson.

IU has now lost four games by 15-plus this season. In the 31 Big Ten regular season losses it has suffered under Woodson, 12 of them have come by 15 or more points

Indiana finished with 16 turnovers that led to 24 points for the Hawkeyes. The 16 turnovers marked the fourth time the Hoosiers have surpassed 15-plus giveaways in a single game.

Iowa's defense entered the game as one of the worst defensive teams in the conference, allowing nearly 79 points per contest. Indiana was bewildered when Iowa went to a zone near the end of the first half, stifling the Hoosiers.

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https://x.com/Tyler_T15/status/1878289154372415833

So I am not even Mgbako and this **** irritates me.  You would think at some point that some of these dudes would have some pride in themselves to stop getting clowned by average @$$ teams like Iowa.  Same for Mike f'n Woodson.  How that dude can sit around, year after year and allow his teams to get clowned KNOWING what this program is supposed to be is infuriating.  The morons with money who gave him another chance show that you don't have to have a brain to be rich.  And many of them are older than me.  They saw the 3 titles.  They know what a wrll run program looks like.  They KNEW this lazy dumb@$$ wasn't the guy and they bought him another year to cement that fact.

I am just so f---ing tired of the people that run this place making this harder than it has to be.  None of them have any shame.  None of them have any pride in what we should be.  They are just robots who throw on the costume of a dead man's program every year and then put it through the motions.  I don't care what Dolson did in football, I have zero faith that anybody attached to this two decades long fiasco in any way is going to be able to figure this out.

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2 hours ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

I'll apologize in advance because I didn't watch the second half and haven't read the second half posts in this thread.  I turned it off at halftime and told my wife they'll lose by 20.    Selected comments from the press.

Iowa dominated points off of turnovers (24-to-10) and fast break points (26-to-2). According to Zach Osterman of The Indianapolis Star, this was Indiana’s 12th Big Ten loss by 15 or more points under Mike Woodson.

IU has now lost four games by 15-plus this season. In the 31 Big Ten regular season losses it has suffered under Woodson, 12 of them have come by 15 or more points

Indiana finished with 16 turnovers that led to 24 points for the Hawkeyes. The 16 turnovers marked the fourth time the Hoosiers have surpassed 15-plus giveaways in a single game.

Iowa's defense entered the game as one of the worst defensive teams in the conference, allowing nearly 79 points per contest. Indiana was bewildered when Iowa went to a zone near the end of the first half, stifling the Hoosiers.

With how bad Woodson's teams have shot and their reliance on driving and getting the ball inside, I'm surprised we haven't seen more zones over the years. It says a lot about how well this team is coached that a team going to zone bewildered them.

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2 hours ago, coonhounds said:

This was another massive blunder by woodson! The team came out as unprepared as any team i have seen! The turnovers were insane. The lack of focus on defense was unforgivable! Bako has a bad game against usc and you think the coaches would have him mentally ready to go and it was another repeat! What's wrong with him? What's wrong with a team to play that terrible several times a season?

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What’s wrong with him is we forget at times he’s our best offensive weapon and we tell him to stand on the wing or corner. They don’t set plays for him to try to get flow early. When he does score gets pulled because “Mike Woodson does what Mike Woodson wants.” The end of the game when he had 7 points in like that 2/3 minute stretch instead of building the confidence and helping him get his feel back we pull him for the remaining 7 minutes. Proceeding to score like 2 points the next 3-3:30 minutes.

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1 hour ago, IUCrazy2 said:

https://x.com/Tyler_T15/status/1878289154372415833

So I am not even Mgbako and this **** irritates me.  You would think at some point that some of these dudes would have some pride in themselves to stop getting clowned by average @$$ teams like Iowa.  Same for Mike f'n Woodson.  How that dude can sit around, year after year and allow his teams to get clowned KNOWING what this program is supposed to be is infuriating.  The morons with money who gave him another chance show that you don't have to have a brain to be rich.  And many of them are older than me.  They saw the 3 titles.  They know what a wrll run program looks like.  They KNEW this lazy dumb@$$ wasn't the guy and they bought him another year to cement that fact.

I am just so f---ing tired of the people that run this place making this harder than it has to be.  None of them have any shame.  None of them have any pride in what we should be.  They are just robots who throw on the costume of a dead man's program every year and then put it through the motions.  I don't care what Dolson did in football, I have zero faith that anybody attached to this two decades long fiasco in any way is going to be able to figure this out.

Well you should care.  If Scott looks for the same traits in a basketball coach that Cig has, we’ll be good to go.  HOWEVER, he has to be allowed to do his job and guys like Buckner can FO.   

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36 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

Well you should care.  If Scott looks for the same traits in a basketball coach that Cig has, we’ll be good to go.  HOWEVER, he has to be allowed to do his job and guys like Buckner can FO.   

It is always the IF.  The IF is the problem.  The people who always insert themselves into this are the IF and the reason why this has been a two decade exercise in futility.

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2 hours ago, IUCrazy2 said:

https://x.com/Tyler_T15/status/1878289154372415833

So I am not even Mgbako and this **** irritates me.  You would think at some point that some of these dudes would have some pride in themselves to stop getting clowned by average @$$ teams like Iowa.  Same for Mike f'n Woodson.  How that dude can sit around, year after year and allow his teams to get clowned KNOWING what this program is supposed to be is infuriating.  The morons with money who gave him another chance show that you don't have to have a brain to be rich.  And many of them are older than me.  They saw the 3 titles.  They know what a wrll run program looks like.  They KNEW this lazy dumb@$$ wasn't the guy and they bought him another year to cement that fact.

I am just so f---ing tired of the people that run this place making this harder than it has to be.  None of them have any shame.  None of them have any pride in what we should be.  They are just robots who throw on the costume of a dead man's program every year and then put it through the motions.  I don't care what Dolson did in football, I have zero faith that anybody attached to this two decades long fiasco in any way is going to be able to figure this out.

Wow, Freeman is a tool. I have no problem when guys talk a little smack about team accomplishments. But he and Mack had similar seasons last year, both for mediocre teams. Have some class man. 

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2 hours ago, IUCrazy2 said:

https://x.com/Tyler_T15/status/1878289154372415833

So I am not even Mgbako and this **** irritates me.  You would think at some point that some of these dudes would have some pride in themselves to stop getting clowned by average @$$ teams like Iowa.  Same for Mike f'n Woodson.  How that dude can sit around, year after year and allow his teams to get clowned KNOWING what this program is supposed to be is infuriating.  The morons with money who gave him another chance show that you don't have to have a brain to be rich.  And many of them are older than me.  They saw the 3 titles.  They know what a wrll run program looks like.  They KNEW this lazy dumb@$$ wasn't the guy and they bought him another year to cement that fact.

I am just so f---ing tired of the people that run this place making this harder than it has to be.  None of them have any shame.  None of them have any pride in what we should be.  They are just robots who throw on the costume of a dead man's program every year and then put it through the motions.  I don't care what Dolson did in football, I have zero faith that anybody attached to this two decades long fiasco in any way is going to be able to figure this out.

This sh*t's been going on for the whole Woodson era. When we lost at home to Illinois his first year, they left a message on the whiteboard in the visitors' locker room that said something like "Nighty night, Trayce!" Rutgers has had dudes playing mind games and calling us out for being soft, the guy from PSU said he wasn't impressed by Ballo, and now this. Our players aren't serious and their opponents know it. 

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1 hour ago, Shooter said:

Wow, Freeman is a tool. I have no problem when guys talk a little smack about team accomplishments. But he and Mack had similar seasons last year, both for mediocre teams. Have some class man. 

I just checked (okay, not really) and the game yesterday didn't change it. It's still a shared award between the two.

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