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[Hurryin' Hoosiers 1,987]

I don't get why judges are getting a say in sports anyway.    There's nothing illegal about setting limits to length of eligibility that I know of.

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 9,141]

 

Guys.... 

 

 

[Stuhoo 80,638]

2 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

 

Guys.... 

 

 

Did not overlap with Cig or Haines at JMU. Is there something we should expect from excited young Mr. O'Neill?

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 9,141]

Just now, Stuhoo said:

Did not overlap with Cig or Haines at JMU. Is there something we should expect from excited young Mr. O'Neill?

No but.. you ever seen a better celebration!?!? 

He emptied the whole quiver!!!! 

 

I do hope he goes portaling. 

[DougWil 51]

36 minutes ago, Hurryin' Hoosiers said:

I don't get why judges are getting a say in sports anyway.    There's nothing illegal about setting limits to length of eligibility that I know of.

The ESPN story explains why courts and judges have a say in this. https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/43048561/vanderbilt-qb-diego-pavia-granted-injunction-allowing-extra-year-eligibility

A federal judge in Tennessee granted an injunction Wednesday that allows Vanderbilt quarterback Diego Pavia to pursue another year of eligibility and could represent another significant blow to the NCAA's ability to enforce its own rules.

Pavia sued the NCAA in November, claiming the organization's rule that counts a player's time in junior college toward his overall years of NCAA eligibility is a violation of antitrust law that was unfairly limiting his ability to make money from his name, image and likeness.

NCAA rules typically allow players a total of five years to play four seasons, but the current crop of college players have been granted an extra year on top of those limits due to the disruption of the coronavirus pandemic. Pavia argued in his initial complaint that the NCAA was unfairly limiting his ability to make money by counting his years in junior college -- which is governed by a separate organization -- against his eligibility.

"We're not saying the NCAA can't have eligibility requirements," said Ryan Downton, Pavia's attorney. "But a junior college season shouldn't be the equivalent of an NCAA season when the junior college season has no meaningful opportunities to earn NIL, no television exposure. They take other athletes [who are playing somewhere outside of high school] and don't hold those seasons against them."

Downton cited junior hockey leagues and post-graduate prep school leagues where athletes compete after finishing high school without losing any of their eligibility.

The judge's ruling Wednesday specifically addresses the NCAA bylaw that deals with junior college players. It does not restrict the NCAA from enforcing the rest of the restrictions it has in place on the number of years athletes can play a sport in college, but the limited injunction could signal that the court system sees the NCAA's eligibility requirements as an illegal restraint. Campbell is the third judge in the past year to issue an injunction on NCAA rules due to concerns that they limit the athletes' ability to maximize their earning potential.

 

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37 minutes ago, Hurryin' Hoosiers said:

I don't get why judges are getting a say in sports anyway.    There's nothing illegal about setting limits to length of eligibility that I know of.

Nope. Technically a judge could bar colleges from denying eligibility to former pros.  Could see busts and even old veterans return to college.  

[go iu bb 5,956]

22 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

 

Guys.... 

 

 

What happened to 71 red? Twice he started something.

[Hurryin' Hoosiers 1,987]

2 hours ago, DougWil said:

The ESPN story explains why courts and judges have a say in this. https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/43048561/vanderbilt-qb-diego-pavia-granted-injunction-allowing-extra-year-eligibility

A federal judge in Tennessee granted an injunction Wednesday that allows Vanderbilt quarterback Diego Pavia to pursue another year of eligibility and could represent another significant blow to the NCAA's ability to enforce its own rules.

Pavia sued the NCAA in November, claiming the organization's rule that counts a player's time in junior college toward his overall years of NCAA eligibility is a violation of antitrust law that was unfairly limiting his ability to make money from his name, image and likeness.

NCAA rules typically allow players a total of five years to play four seasons, but the current crop of college players have been granted an extra year on top of those limits due to the disruption of the coronavirus pandemic. Pavia argued in his initial complaint that the NCAA was unfairly limiting his ability to make money by counting his years in junior college -- which is governed by a separate organization -- against his eligibility.

"We're not saying the NCAA can't have eligibility requirements," said Ryan Downton, Pavia's attorney. "But a junior college season shouldn't be the equivalent of an NCAA season when the junior college season has no meaningful opportunities to earn NIL, no television exposure. They take other athletes [who are playing somewhere outside of high school] and don't hold those seasons against them."

Downton cited junior hockey leagues and post-graduate prep school leagues where athletes compete after finishing high school without losing any of their eligibility.

The judge's ruling Wednesday specifically addresses the NCAA bylaw that deals with junior college players. It does not restrict the NCAA from enforcing the rest of the restrictions it has in place on the number of years athletes can play a sport in college, but the limited injunction could signal that the court system sees the NCAA's eligibility requirements as an illegal restraint. Campbell is the third judge in the past year to issue an injunction on NCAA rules due to concerns that they limit the athletes' ability to maximize their earning potential.

 

Thanks for the article.

Still think it's a load of crap.  If JUCO doesn't provide enough NIL opportunities, then don't go JUCO.  if his grades suck and he has to go JUCO then it's his own fault. cry a river but it's hardly unfair.

Do you know why JUCO doesn't have NIL opportunities?  Because no one cares to donate money for JUCOs.  What next?  People in other sports complaining because their sports aren't big money makers in NIL?  Next lawsuit will be from the rowing team because NIL collectives aren't able to pad their wallets.

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21 minutes ago, Hurryin' Hoosiers said:

Thanks for the article.

Still think it's a load of crap.  If JUCO doesn't provide enough NIL opportunities, then don't go JUCO.  if his grades suck and he has to go JUCO then it's his own fault. cry a river but it's hardly unfair.

Do you know why JUCO doesn't have NIL opportunities?  Because no one cares to donate money for JUCOs.  What next?  People in other sports complaining because their sports aren't big money makers in NIL?  Next lawsuit will be from the rowing team because NIL collectives aren't able to pad their wallets.

The problem here (as with many of the other problems the NCAA has had) is inconsistency. There are other routes players take between HS and NCAA which don't count against them even though they're still competing. Prep school is one of the examples given. This is a problem of the NCAA's own making.

[Hurryin' Hoosiers 1,987]

42 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

The problem here (as with many of the other problems the NCAA has had) is inconsistency. There are other routes players take between HS and NCAA which don't count against them even though they're still competing. Prep school is one of the examples given. This is a problem of the NCAA's own making.

whether you go JUCO, prep or NCAA is a choice.  Sometimes a choice based on a other factors that may take away some of the options, like poor grades, but at the end of the day it's up to the player to which route he goes or can go.

It would be like choosing to be a nurse and then later complaining about not making the same money as a doctor.

[Leo 454]

ESPZYN reporting Roman Hemby has committed to IU. Time will tell. Would be a big get

[Hoosierfanyuh 2,223]

https://x.com/espzynalerts/status/1869826492118774058?s=46
 

1 2 punch with him and bebee

[Hovadipo 56,100]

2 minutes ago, Leo said:

ESPZYN reporting Roman Hemby has committed to IU. Time will tell. Would be a big get

Woah...I love it. Huge Hemby fan.

[Hurryin' Hoosiers 1,987]

We will just take anyone that our defense has trouble stopping :)

Hemby ran for 117 yards on 10 carries against us with that 1 TD. Maybe can work on improving the 11.7 yards per carry. :)

[Demo 19,946]

1 minute ago, Hurryin' Hoosiers said:

We will just take anyone that our defense has trouble stopping :)

Seems like a reasonable data point now. If CTA had tried that there wouldn’t have been enough scholly’s.

[FootballSchool 73]

Hemby and Beebe are going to feed families!!

[Hovadipo 56,100]

1 hour ago, Hurryin' Hoosiers said:

We will just take anyone that our defense has trouble stopping :)

Hemby ran for 117 yards on 10 carries against us with that 1 TD. Maybe can work on improving the 11.7 yards per carry. :)

10 carries for about 52 yards if not for an excellent block on Asbury Ponds by the back judge.

People don't forget.

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 9,141]

Hemby+Beebe combined for 70 catches this year 

[Hurryin' Hoosiers 1,987]

4 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

10 carries for about 52 yards if not for an excellent block on Asbury by the back judge.

People don't forget.

can we get the back judge to transfer? 

[MemphisHoosier 2,145]

16 minutes ago, Hurryin' Hoosiers said:

We will just take anyone that our defense has trouble stopping :)

Hemby ran for 117 yards on 10 carries against us with that 1 TD. Maybe can work on improving the 11.7 yards per carry. :)

Imagine what a competent staff could do to scheme for Hemby...too talented for Ol' Locks to waste...