Transfer Portal w IU Interest

[Hoosierfan1901 8,275]

1 minute ago, Paye32 said:

Gotta leave room for Reibe and Mullins when Hurley Bolts for the Nuggets job! 

Hmmm

[AH1971 3,076]

3 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

That quickness wasn’t enough for him to dominate at Evansville or Eastern Kentucky. He’s little. If his quickness can’t dominate at a lower level it isn’t going to dominate in the B1G. Plus he’s another guard that’s not a great shooter. Everyone has their own opinions and that’s fine. Expecting him be a + guard in the B1G when he hasn’t been that anywhere else Is fools gold.


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I’m not sure what your definition of “dominate” is? He averaged 17 a game this last season and was All-MVC. He played on a bad team without much of a supporting cast. Don’t need him to dominate next year given the role he’d be expected to play. But if he can beat his man off the dribble and find shooters for 10-15 minutes a game, I’d take that all day from a backup PG.

[rcbowla 8,231]

46 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

I am higher on Enright than you are, but yeah that wouldn't be in love with that as a 1-2 combination at point guard.  The one thing I do like about Comer is he does get to the line -- at least last year.  5.6 free throws from your point guard is a ton.

It's also an abilty that Reed Bailey has -- he got to the line almost 7 times/game at Davidson.  

Bailey looks to bang into someone constantly. Dude thrives with contact. His FT rate totally checks out with his game.

[WayneFleekHoosier 51,262]

7 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

I’m not sure what your definition of “dominate” is? He averaged 17 a game this last season and was All-MVC. He played on a bad team without much of a supporting cast. Don’t need him to dominate next year given the role he’d be expected to play. But if he can beat his man off the dribble and find shooters for 10-15 minutes a game, I’d take that all day from a backup PG.

So Enright is the starter now?  Comer got those stats as a lead player on an 11 win team shooting 38% from the field and 30% from 3.  If his quickness was so great he’d get easy buckets at the rim or have crazy assist numbers from dump offs after beating his man.  None of these things happened.  He was an inefficient high volume guy and that’s been his career.  

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[AH1971 3,076]

11 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

So Enright is the starter now?  Comer got those stats as a lead player on an 11 win team shooting 38% from the field and 30% from 3.  If his quickness was so great he’d get easy buckets at the rim or have crazy assist numbers from dump offs after beating his man.  Non of these things happened.  He was an inefficient high volume guy and that’s been his career.  

I’ve always suspected Enright to be the starter. He’s DeVries guy who knows and understands his system. I told you this 3 weeks ago. But you’re extrapolating Comer’s role at Evansville to something he wouldn’t have at Indiana. He’s not going to be a green light, option 1 guy. 

Lance Jones was a high usage, low efficient player from the same conference who transferred to Purdue and accepted a lesser role and became an invaluable piece to that team.

 

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8 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

So Enright is the starter now?  Comer got those stats as a lead player on an 11 win team shooting 38% from the field and 30% from 3.  If his quickness was so great he’d get easy buckets at the rim or have crazy assist numbers from dump offs after beating his man.  None of these things happened.  He was an inefficient high volume guy and that’s been his career.  

I think Leland Walker or Jestin Porter (both bigger than Comer) would be at least as promising for DDV to recruit.

[JustWinBaby 1,917]

7 hours ago, JustWinBaby said:

I remember when portal season felt like drinking from a firehose. Nowadays it's like a slow drip, drip, drip of information.

My prediction is we'll get some staff and player announcements in a flurry next week and then it'll slow back down. Only makes sense given how quiet it's been recently.

 

6 hours ago, IUGRAD06 said:

On Rivals, there is an interview with Risley who said that DeVries is negotiating with a bunch of players and expected 4-5 commits by the end of the week.  This is coming from a former players call with DeVries and Dolson.  

I posted the above comment and then an hour later we hear that IU has 4-5 players signing next week. Hmmm...

[Home Jersey 15,656]

We will see who we end up signing and what role they are going to play.

I haven't watched a ton of tape on Comer but I wasn't blown away by what I saw on a few Youtube videos. 

It's DDV's first cycle and I've said repeatedly this won't net the best version of his roster. I don't know exactly what style he intends to play. I'm not going to get too wound up until we see them all on the court. All that said, looking at UConn... They got Demary to go with Ball and now are trying to sell Malachi Smith from Dayton on a 20mpg 6th man role. We'll see if Hurley can pull that off. 

Malachi Smith ranked #53 OVR transfer #12 PG

247 has Tyshawn Comer unranked as a transfer

 

I saw on a UConn board Smith averaged 12.8 PTS 2.4 REB 5.8 AST vs. ranked teams this year.

To compare deeper, I went and looked at Comer's career vs. P5 teams, first two years at EKU, last year at Evansville 

At EKU, he played these P5 teams: Alabama, Purdue, Tennessee, WVU, Cincinnati

Comer averaged 4.4 points. Other stats very underwhelming... 

This year at Evansville

• Vs Drake (L) scored 20 points in 40 minutes 7/14 FG 2-4 3PT 4-4 FT. 3 Reb 2AST 2 TO
• At Drake (L) 11 points in 36 mins on 5/13, 0-2, 1-2 FT. 7 TOs 1AST
• Ohio State game: 5 points in 25 mins on 2/8, 0/1, 1/2 FT. 4 TOs 1AST

I'm not saying it's a fair expectation to recruit at the same level as UConn right now, but I don't love what I'm seeing from Comer. Maybe it would look different in candy stripes. I'm just a guy on the internet. 

 

[WayneFleekHoosier 51,262]

I’ve always suspected Enright to be the starter. He’s DeVries guy who knows and understands his system. I told you this 3 weeks ago. But you’re extrapolating Comer’s role at Evansville to something he wouldn’t have at Indiana. He’s not going to be a green light, option 1 guy. 

Lance Jones was a high usage, low efficient player from the same conference who transferred to Purdue and accepted a lesser role and became an invaluable piece to that team.
 

Pretty bummed to hear this. Just completely unimpressed with what we are doing with the PG position.

Jones is a good comp I suppose. He was a defensive menace and became a clutch 3 point shooter for them at 35% on nearly 5 attempts.

Feels like Comer is about to happen then. I guess I’ll mentally prepare for this one.


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[AH1971 3,076]

8 minutes ago, Magisterium said:

I think Leland Walker or Jestin Porter (both bigger than Comer) would be at least as promising for DDV to recruit.

Walker and Comer are the same size. Walker was Comer’s back up at EKU their freshman year. Pretty similar numbers across the board. Porter is an undersized 2 guard that has more turnovers than assists for his career. 
 
I would be fine with either Comer or Walker as a backup PG.

[Hoosierfanyuh 5,962]

I could see enright starting or first guard off the bench (what I would prefer, kind of a Galloway role on the final year of TJD’s tenure)

Not a huge fan of Comer. 

[lillurk 5,047]

I’m broadly with @Stuhoo on Comer in the abstract but also agree with @Home Jersey that a theoretical Comer/Enright PG tandem underwhelms me. I would think there’s still room for a starting- or star-caliber PG or combo G with those two AND a Wilkerson-type 2.

Enright does some good things: guarding 1s, hitting 3s, passing, getting the puppies organized. Comer too; different things: gets to the line, squint at the O #s and you can squint and see a guy who’d be more efficient in lower usage.

But in total that’s a bench guard package, I think pretty clearly.

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14 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

We will see who we end up signing and what role they are going to play.

I haven't watched a ton of tape on Comer but I wasn't blown away by what I saw on a few Youtube videos. 

It's DDV's first cycle and I've said repeatedly this won't net the best version of his roster. I don't know exactly what style he intends to play. I'm not going to get too wound up until we see them all on the court. All that said, looking at UConn... They got Demary to go with Ball and now are trying to sell Malachi Smith from Dayton on a 20mpg 6th man role. We'll see if Hurley can pull that off. 

Malachi Smith ranked #53 OVR transfer #12 PG

247 has Tyshawn Comer unranked as a transfer

 

I saw on a UConn board Smith averaged 12.8 PTS 2.4 REB 5.8 AST vs. ranked teams this year.

To compare deeper, I went and looked at Comer's career vs. P5 teams, first two years at EKU, last year at Evansville 

At EKU, he played these P5 teams: Alabama, Purdue, Tennessee, WVU, Cincinnati

Comer averaged 4.4 points. Other stats very underwhelming... 

This year at Evansville

• Vs Drake (L) scored 20 points in 40 minutes 7/14 FG 2-4 3PT 4-4 FT. 3 Reb 2AST 2 TO
• At Drake (L) 11 points in 36 mins on 5/13, 0-2, 1-2 FT. 7 TOs 1AST
• Ohio State game: 5 points in 25 mins on 2/8, 0/1, 1/2 FT. 4 TOs 1AST

I'm not saying it's a fair expectation to recruit at the same level as UConn right now, but I don't love what I'm seeing from Comer. Maybe it would look different in candy stripes. I'm just a guy on the internet. 

 

If I were recruiting anyone from Evansville it would be Pozzato, not Comer

[Home Jersey 15,656]

3 minutes ago, lillurk said:

I’m broadly with @Stuhoo on Comer in the abstract but also agree with @Home Jersey that a theoretical Comer/Enright PG tandem underwhelms me. I would think there’s still room for a starting- or star-caliber PG or combo G with those two AND a Wilkerson-type 2.

Enright does some good things: guarding 1s, hitting 3s, passing, getting the puppies organized. Comer too; different things: gets to the line, squint at the O #s and you can squint and see a guy who’d be more efficient in lower usage.

But in total that’s a bench guard package, I think pretty clearly.

I hope that turns out to be the case but sort of expect Enright to start also.

[WayneFleekHoosier 51,262]

We will see who we end up signing and what role they are going to play.

I haven't watched a ton of tape on Comer but I wasn't blown away by what I saw on a few Youtube videos. 

It's DDV's first cycle and I've said repeatedly this won't net the best version of his roster. I don't know exactly what style he intends to play. I'm not going to get too wound up until we see them all on the court. All that said, looking at UConn... They got Demary to go with Ball and now are trying to sell Malachi Smith from Dayton on a 20mpg 6th man role. We'll see if Hurley can pull that off. 

Malachi Smith ranked #53 OVR transfer #12 PG

247 has Tyshawn Comer unranked as a transfer

 

I saw on a UConn board Smith averaged 12.8 PTS 2.4 REB 5.8 AST vs. ranked teams this year.

To compare deeper, I went and looked at Comer's career vs. P5 teams, first two years at EKU, last year at Evansville 

At EKU, he played these P5 teams: Alabama, Purdue, Tennessee, WVU, Cincinnati

Comer averaged 4.4 points. Other stats very underwhelming... 

This year at Evansville

• Vs Drake (L) scored 20 points in 40 minutes 7/14 FG 2-4 3PT 4-4 FT. 3 Reb 2AST 2 TO
• At Drake (L) 11 points in 36 mins on 5/13, 0-2, 1-2 FT. 7 TOs 1AST
• Ohio State game: 5 points in 25 mins on 2/8, 0/1, 1/2 FT. 4 TOs 1AST

I'm not saying it's a fair expectation to recruit at the same level as UConn right now, but I don't love what I'm seeing from Comer. Maybe it would look different in candy stripes. I'm just a guy on the internet. 

 

A lot of examples of teams doing so much more with the PG spot. Frustrating. I guess DeVries thinks he can win this way. Hope Tucker can hit a bunch of 35 footers when all else fails. Wilkerson would be a huge get for scoring punch. We’ll see if that happens now.

 

What are we gonna run with end of shot clock scenarios. Lol. Enright gonna be our guy? Crazy.

 

 

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[Hoosierfanyuh 5,962]

Also think there’s a lot going on that we aren’t aware of. If 4/5 players are truly coming within the week that’s a lot of people we don’t know about. Hell, we didn’t even know about Wilkerson until very last second. These next few weeks should be fun. 

[Hoosierfanyuh 5,962]

1 minute ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

A lot of examples of teams doing so much more with the PG spot. Frustrating. I guess DeVries thinks he can with this way. Hope Tucker can hit a bunch of 35 footers when all else fails. Wilkerson would be a huge get for scoring punch. We’ll see if that happens now.

What are we gonna run with end of shot clock scenarios. Lol. Enright gonna be our guy? Crazy.


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You’re acting like it’s a forgone conclusion that scenario is happening, wait and see before judgement 

[WayneFleekHoosier 51,262]

Also think there’s a lot going on that we aren’t aware of. If 4/5 players are truly coming within the week that’s a lot of people we don’t know about. Hell, we didn’t even know about Wilkerson until very last second. These next few weeks should be fun. 

Fun or depressing. Entertaining nonetheless.


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[Magisterium 474]

1 minute ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

Also think there’s a lot going on that we aren’t aware of. If 4/5 players are truly coming within the week that’s a lot of people we don’t know about. Hell, we didn’t even know about Wilkerson until very last second. These next few weeks should be fun. 

I wouldn’t necessarily say “fun” but I would say “determinative”

[Hoosierfanyuh 5,962]

2 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Fun or depressing. Entertaining nonetheless.


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I’m feeling optimistic after the tinsley podcast,