They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[WeeDerkaNaut 577]

1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said:

Why do you care if some on here a gullible?  Not effecting you so why does it matter? You don’t believe it so who cares if others do.   

I tried to make that point to them my friend...but the result was

[IU Prof 1,580]

2 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

I still think a fire retire scenario is most likely before we play our last conference game

I thought so too, but now I'm not so sure. If Woodson is intent to hold on to the bitter end, he wouldn't want to retire while there was still a chance that he could go on a run in March. Regardless of how badly the next six weeks go, I'm sure he'll think he can win the B1G tournament and then make a final four run.

Meanwhile, if I'm Woodson, I'd be skeptical that the department wouldn't let me "retire" once the season is over in order to avoid having to fire a program legend. And he's probably right.

So I'm not sure what motivation he'd have to preemptively announce his retirement before he absolutely has to.

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 10,244]

9 minutes ago, Hoosier DaDa said:

for absolutely no reason

Huh? I am confused why we'd want to lose him, yeah, especially compared to Cupps... my lord. 

All I've said is he should be in the group to have a convo with.

[Golfman25 6,295]

28 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Sampson was given the option to resign in exchange that he wouldn't later sue the university and Davis was given the option to resign cordially or be fired at the end of the season...the same option that likely exists for Woodson. 

Knight and Sampson were fired/forced to resign due extenuating circumstances while Davis, Crean, and Archie were allowed to coach until the end of the season. Not sure why you'd think it'd be any different for Woodson unless extenuating circumstances permit otherwise.... which obviously don't exist. Losing a bunch of games isn't a for-cause termination like violating a zero tolerance policy or committing several level 1 NCAA violations.

Pretty straightforward. 

Well the next coach's contract better say: "losing to Purdue by 20+ is cause for termination."  :)  

[Uspshoosier 50,981]

1 hour ago, AH1971 said:

Archie had a losing record his last year....

Yep.  Played the 4th toughest overall schedule.  2-12 in Q1 games,  6-2 in Q2 games.  Didn’t have the luxury of playing home games with a crowd.  17 games against the top 50.   Definitely needed to go but thats a tough way to out 

[Hoosier DaDa 3,546]

2 hours ago, Pagoda said:

Our pretend insider is back!

 

I have always hated this comic strip.  It was always blah blah blah (you know the process) probably just like BoT meetings example below.

[Hoosier DaDa 3,546]

4 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

Huh? I am confused why we'd want to lose him, yeah, especially compared to Cupps... my lord. 

All I've said is he should be in the group to have a convo with.

I don't think I brought Cupps up in this conversation, but Tucker why would you want to keep him.  According to this board he sounds entitled him and his dad feels like he should play 40 minutes he calling other schools all along grabbing a big check.  Please let the door hit you in the a$$ on the way out.  Tucker Sucks look at his stat line.

[Scotty R 2,873]

1 hour ago, mamasa said:

Jeezus, you're such a troll sometimes. Chris has given this board a ton of information over the years.  Stop kissing Cathy's @$$

I couldn't care less about Kathy and she is a troll as well just let the other insiders 

[Uspshoosier 50,981]

14 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

You are so gracious. Knew we were toast when we were down by 30 to a brand new Louisville coach and roster before the end of November lol. 

Down 38

[Pagoda 2,839]

5 minutes ago, Hoosier DaDa said:

I have always hated this comic strip.  It was always blah blah blah (you know the process) probably just like BoT meetings example below.

Aaack!

[go iu bb 7,786]

Here's a question. I know if a coach leaves (for whatever reason) in the spring or summer after the transfer portal window is closed the players on that team get 30 days to enter the portal. Is that true if the coach leaves is fired or resigns during the season? If a coach is fired during the season, is there the possibility (however unlikely) that school might be unable to field a team because too many players hit the portal immediately?

[Golfman25 6,295]

2 minutes ago, Hoosier DaDa said:

I don't think I brought Cupps up in this conversation, but Tucker why would you want to keep him.  According to this board he sounds entitled him and his dad feels like he should play 40 minutes he calling other schools all along grabbing a big check.  Please let the door hit you in the a$$ on the way out.  Tucker Sucks look at his stat line.

Frankly, If I am the next coach, each player gets a pass on the year because the current staff sucks.  I'll measure them on their skill set, potential, attitude towards the new program, etc.  Gonna need a bunch of players, so any that can fit my program who are already here is a bonus.  

[AH1971 2,109]

39 minutes ago, str8baller said:

Lol…instead of untangling that convoluted mess, let’s just point out that you’re at odds with your fellow poster Cathy.  
 

But we can all agree on one thing: i was right about 3/5 basketball coaches since Knight being terminated/resigned/fired before the end of the season. This is exceedingly straightforward which is why I find it hard to believe anyone not trolling can’t grasp it. 

 

There’s no IU process or precedent of IU having a deliberate end of season pow wow to fire coaches. Woody will be fired whenever the reactionary chuckleheads in the IU admin feel like it, which is historically long after everyone else knows it’s time to go. We’re in that territory now. Could be tomorrow. Could be April or anywhere in between.

You made the ridiculous assertion, not me or anybody else. Only one coach has been relieved mid-season (Sampson) and it had nothing to do with performance. The last 3 underperforming coaches all got to finish the season and Knight’s firing before the season also had nothing to do with performance. Not sure why you would think it’d be any different for Woodson who isn’t facing a for-cause termination.
 

Acting like there’s a prior precedent for firing an underperforming coach in the middle of the season is an outlandish take. It’s literally never happened at IU before lol.

[Hoosier DaDa 3,546]

1 hour ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Well, it was supposed to be the 'picket fence', but none of the team had ever seen Hoosiers or knew what that was.

Still not sure why you would run the picket fence with no space... really what did they think they could get from 20 ft out with 3 defenders right there...guy guarding inbound takes baseline away.  

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 10,244]

6 minutes ago, Hoosier DaDa said:

I don't think I brought Cupps up in this conversation, but Tucker why would you want to keep him.  According to this board he sounds entitled him and his dad feels like he should play 40 minutes he calling other schools all along grabbing a big check.  Please let the door hit you in the a$$ on the way out.  Tucker Sucks look at his stat line.

Cupps was brought up first. 

His stats lol.. look at Kaleb Banks stats the last two years. 

I've listed why. 

[Uspshoosier 50,981]

4 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

Here's a question. I know if a coach leaves (for whatever reason) in the spring or summer after the transfer portal window is closed the players on that team get 30 days to enter the portal. Is that true if the coach leaves is fired or resigns during the season? If a coach is fired during the season, is there the possibility (however unlikely) that school might be unable to field a team because too many players hit the portal immediately?

Yes.   Miami players had  a 30 day window I believe 

[JSHoosier 21,677]

1 hour ago, IU22 said:

@Chris007 is there anyone around that realistically wants Woodson back? Any fans?

Buckner, Ferguson, Thomas. There's three people.

[Uspshoosier 50,981]

1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said:

Yes.   Miami players had  a 30 day window I believe 

https://www.on3.com/news/jim-larranaga-retirement-opens-30-day-transfer-portal-for-miami-hurricanes-basketball/

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23 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

You are so gracious. Knew we were toast when we were down by 30 to a brand new Louisville coach and roster before the end of November lol. 

Let’s be clear, most of us knew we were toast before last season ended when it was made known Woody was going to be retained. 
 

I wasn’t the least bit surprised by the B4A outcome. I was surprised by how bad we looked getting to said outcome though 
 

Nobody being honest and objective thought we would make any noise even with this roster we purchased. That said, we’ve actually been worse even than what I expected which is a testament to our coaching staff, impressive stuff honestly. To fail this absurdly with the talent on this team actually takes effort lol

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15 minutes ago, IU Prof said:

I thought so too, but now I'm not so sure. If Woodson is intent to hold on to the bitter end, he wouldn't want to retire while there was still a chance that he could go on a run in March. Regardless of how badly the next six weeks go, I'm sure he'll think he can win the B1G tournament and then make a final four run.

Meanwhile, if I'm Woodson, I'd be skeptical that the department wouldn't let me "retire" once the season is over in order to avoid having to fire a program legend. And he's probably right.

So I'm not sure what motivation he'd have to preemptively announce his retirement before he absolutely has to.

If our administration had any brains they would force it.   We can either announce your end of season retirement right now and you can finish the season or we make another announcement right now and you’ve already coached your last game.

This isn’t difficult people.  Unless you’re a Cathy.